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peace and hotep,
follow the logic and the truthe will set you free
from ancient egypt to present day, africans have always abused albino mutant depigmented children of african mothers and fathers.......thanks Masimba Musodza.
Re: Is Welsing's theory on albinism about abuse?
Posted By: Ayinde
Date: Sunday, 4 June 2006, at 7:30 a.m.
In Response To: Is Welsing's theory on albinism about abuse? (Ayinde)
Indigenous people would have recognized albinos as sickly, so that would have definitely been a concern. If ones accept Dr. Frances Cress Welsing’s albino theory, then to conclude that indigenous parents were being abusive when they quarantined or even abandoned sick ones (like albinos) is a misrepresentation of indigenous values.
It is highly possible that an indigenous community was ignorant of the cause of albinism and how to cure it. They perhaps thought it was infectious also. They could have felt that instead of risking infection to the entire community it was better to quarantine or even surrender the sick ones to nature/gods.
We have no evidence that indigenous parents were abusive and reckless. We do have evidence that they were caring and nurturing. I think it is incorrect to judge the (possible) action of isolating ones they thought had a communicable disease, so as not to contaminate the rest of the community, as an act of abuse.
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Re: Is Welsing's theory on albinism about abuse?
Posted By: Masimba Musodza
Date: Monday, 5 June 2006, at 11:11 a.m.
In Response To: Re: Is Welsing's theory on albinism about abuse? (Ayinde)
I am ashamed to say this, but until recently albino children were killed at birth in my culture. Even today, the only other people that face prejudice because of their appearance are dreadlocked Rastafarians like myself. The offensive word for an albino is "murungudunhu" literally meaning "the white man (we have with us) in the district/area". A more appropriate term is "musope", but the etymology of this word is foreign and would have come with whoever introduced a revision of our attitude.
I am bringing this up because I think that although strides have been taken to confront the social stigma, more could be done and any Zimbabwean who has harboured hatred for albinos reading this should be ashamed.
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a small part of alienation, anxiety and narcissism
Posted By: seshatasefekht
Date: Sunday, 4 June 2006, at 12:45 p.m.
In Response To: Is Welsing's theory on albinism about abuse? (Ayinde)
peace and hotep,
ayinde, respect for consideration of this topic.
much too often, many africans withe 'credentials' are not given considerations by the system of White Supremacy Racism. dr frances cress welsing and others are presently alive and quite capable of defending their points. however, our "einsteins" , our "freuds" are muted during and after the struggles of their life time......
could dr. welsing possibly be a White Supremacist's "agent provocateur" withe intent of undermining our many recent gains? or could she be one of many sisters capable of reading between the lines?
many theories brought forth by White Supremacist Racist are tried, tested and even utilized but the best of our theorists are swept aside by stagnating tides.
freedomisahapislave
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Re: what whites think about their own behavior....
Posted By: Ayinde
Date: Sunday, 4 June 2006, at 3:58 p.m.
In Response To: Re: what whites think about their own behavior.... (seshatasefekht)
I do not want to further debate this with you as I am really disgusted by your flagrant and deliberate corruption of the consciousness thread. There is much more that could be said about this issue and other theories in general, and I may engage them some other time.
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"I do not want to further debate this" --ayinde
Posted By: seshatasefekht
Date: Monday, 5 June 2006, at 1:01 p.m.
In Response To: Re: what whites think about their own behavior.... (Ayinde)
peace and hotep,
ayinde, you initialized this thread because it threatened your position on 'who is qualified to lead african people based on skin tone rather than Counter-Racism. it is impossible for your method/proposal aid in the elimination of White Supremacy and the production of justice, correctness and truth in this known universe.
dr frances cress welsings position is supported by White People and Non-White People. since it logically targets african parents of the White Nation for instilling the alienation, anxiety and narcissism that ini feel as oppressive "burdens" on the Victims of Racism.
ayinde, i have three points:
arrogance, stubbornness and ignorance - that you would dismiss your on topic after you arguement falters....also that you imagine that ini may wait for a 'great black hope'....lastly, that you believe that welsing would submit a claim based on ignorance when ini know that past and presently the mistreatment of depigmented ones by their own parents.........from ancient egypt to "recent" killings of "off-spring" on the continent.
freedomisahapislave
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Re: Is Welsing's theory on albinism about abuse?
Posted By: Ayinde
Date: Sunday, 4 June 2006, at 2:46 p.m.
In Response To: Is Welsing's theory on albinism about abuse? (Ayinde)
I do not accept Dr. Frances Cress Welsing’s theory on its own as the cause of the psychology of White people.
I will wait until Whites put forward their own theory about white behavior before I share what I think is a more complex set of circumstances than what is theorized by Dr. Frances Cress Welsing.
As is evident today, the brutal characteristics that Blacks dislike about Whites are also being perpetuated by Blacks, which shows that brutality is a learnt behaviour and not simply the genetic trait of one type of people.
freedomisahapislave
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