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Kayne West has a new line of jewelry coming out. The main jewelry piece he's promoting is this:

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A White/blonde/blue eyed Jesus!!

Kayne West really suits the stupidity of the mindset of the Hip-Hop industry. He is horribly ridiculous!

B.K

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Kanye West Teams With Jacob The Jeweler For New Line
By Nolan Strong and Jigsaw

Kanye West has a passion for Jesus Christ evident in his song "Jesus Walks" and now the religious figure can symbolically walk with the producer/rapper at all times.

West and famed Jacob The Jeweler have joined forces to produce a line of "religious-themed" jewelry, which includes diamond studded Jesus pendants.

Presently, the pair released a lavish Jesus piece for potential consumers to view. The gold piece features a crown of diamond-set thorns on Jesus'head, two sparkling diamond eyes and red rubies that form tears flowing from the Savior's eye.

Diamonds and other gems are sprinkled throughout Jesus' hair, beard and face to complete the shiny work of art. [To see exclusive pictures, click here.]

West and the jewelry merchant have yet to announce a name for the line, but such details will be made public in the near future.

In the song "Jesus Walks" which spawned the union, West reveals his need for Jesus in his life. "God show me the way because the devil [is] trying to break me down."

Jacob Arabo is the jeweler of choice among Hip-Hop celebrities. Arabo, a Russian immigrant, recently signed a licensing deal with the NBA for the rights to place the NBA logo and all 29 teams on his famous Five Time Zone watches.

After founding his company in 1981, Jacob's fortunes took off in the mid-1990's when Faith Evans found his New York-based store as she was seeking jewelry for her upcoming CD cover.

Later, she returned with her husband, the late Notorious B.I.G., who became a loyal customer and recommended the jewelers creations to numerous high profile friends in the entertainment business.

http://www.allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=3077

What a good heap of nonsense.  Hip hop artists bow at the feet of white kids trying to act ghetto all throughout america's suburbs, anyway.  I believe it was g-man who made a hilarious post about that some months ago.  Eminem capped the phenomenon up nicely in his song "White America"...and they keep gobbling his crap up even after he trashed them in a song.  In this mindless culture, almost all those youths are sharing one large fabricated identity...that spells out what you said: STUPID(ity), MINDLESS.  

Like the BOOM BOOM BOOM of their pricey & ugly cars.

Thanks for posting this! Now this is some pitiful sh*t...but then again we all should have known from jump. He is signed to "Rockafella". How much sense could he have? His mind is completely gone. I guess the slave master/colonizer/oppressor is his savior/God. Imagine if we weren't stolen from Africa, there wouldn't be beautiful pieces of jewelry like this that we can't afford! I could have sworn Yeshua would have been against stealing our mother land's natural resources and exploiting our brothers and sisters in the process...but then again, I didn't know he was Nordic! So what do I know! Kanye West needs to pick up a book or two, what's really scary is that I think he is the product of a historically Black University.

Ok,

B.K.,  When do you tell us this is a joke for I honestly can't believe this is true.

I don't know what is worse... the golden blonde hair and the sparkly blue eyes.

or

The fact that some 20 odd year old man will be wearing this and still living at home with his folks.

All I can do is smile and give thanks that this does not apeal to me in the least.

Loving and learning...

..Kingston..

Firstly it is ridiculous that a black man for one instance could actually create and believe in such a thing but it is not impossible to believe reason being is even if Kanye knows about slavery,civil rights and all other hardships black people went through he still like every black kid who believes in a white god,{he grew up and went to school in Amerikka and in their system they aint no African studies or black history class or Social Studies as it is called in the caribbean} and he is a rapper trying to be all ghetto since he is coming back from his near death car accident and who is his most appealing audience white kids so he will do anything to make more money, him being signed to Rockafella really aint got much say in it so no one would have knowned he would have do such a thing from just being signed to that company.
Honestly their is so much our race dont know about their heritage and so many things they do shows how vulnerable we are, for one black people like to buy Tommy Hilfiger and Timberland gears and shoes but what they dont know or wont believe is Tommy Hate 'niggers' as he once said but love to see how stupid they are to buy his line and the owner of timberland is a former member of the KKK and he too loves to see black ppl at his feet. So dont be so surprise if you see black kids walking around with that crap on their neck, how could they live with themselves i dont know but hey im only one of the few 17 yearolds who aint blinded by fashion,money or greed.I see him as Just one more clown who came to entertain me.

WILL THE REAL BLACK PEOPLE PLEASE STAND UP...ARE WE REALLY ONLY INTERESTED IN THE GOLDEN FLEECE...WHAT THE (HELL) IS GOING ON...OUR GREAT BLACK SAGES THAT HAVE GONE BEFORE....THEY MUST TURN IN THE GRAVES...WHAT THE HELL OR WHO THE HELL DID THEY SUFFER AND CONSIQUENTLY DIED FOR...WILL THE REAL BLACK PEOPLE PLEASE STAND UP ?...THIS IS REALLY VERY VERY URGENT[/color]

thanks for the post B.K. Kanye's business venture is apparently a step backwards and utterly disgusting. I wonder if he has ever thought that perhaps what he is doing is actually exploiting the black man he so called holds in high esteem. And then to further put money in Yacub the jewelers pocket........

 peace and hotep,

let them have their 'white' jesus.

like marvin gaye, they'll learn the hard way.

in the baptismal pool at my home church
still hangs 'white' jesus and john the baptist.

those old women who look young as me
are waiting to kick the butts of young upstarts.

they don't believe a black khrst can pay the bills,
cause ain't no black savior come for them.

marvin's dad was a black savior
in a dress [smiley=lipsrsealed2.gif]........

watch out kanye west.....

freedomisahapislave

How can a so-called conscious Black person wear the whiteness of the Jesus (who never existed) as jewellery? Don't believe the hype brothers and sisters, Kanye is simply ignorant! Suprisingly, he speaks about social and political issues, but this guy is out to make money just like Snoop or 50 cents. Niggers are all over the TV now to make true conscious Blacks look like fools.

B.K

Greetings,

"Niggers are all over the TV now to make true conscious Blacks look like fools."

Aint' that the truth Bantu.
If Its not Damon Wayans, its Steve Harvey, or Dave Chapell, or any other "Shuck and Jiver". Entertaining these folks like always. "Yes suh, I'll dance fu ya suh, I'll sang and tell jokes too suh, anythang you need suh, I'll be ya Boy"!  [smiley=jester.gif] Oh that tricky mass they call media. Works good hun? The truth will NEVER be displayed (as truth) to the masses.

                                      Ises

i remember on that song "Geezus" walks that Kanye said,"it doesnt matter if jesus was white or black",lol.obviously it does matter if one race has been trying to force it on another for CENTURIES.Duh

Yes, it is very disappointing to hear this Jesus Jewelry business.. This youth is so close to being conscious, but the whole scene has got him caught up.. I will say though that so often ones are shooting the messanger and not listening to the message. This tune Jesus Walks is actually a good one for the youths to be hearing, compared to the other tunes they're being fed.


Lyrics to Jesus Walks:
Yo, We at war
We at war with terrorism, racism but most of all we at war with ourselves
(Jesus Walks)
God show me the way because the Devil trying to break me down
(Jesus Walks with me) with me with me with me [fades]

You know what the Midwest is?
Young & Restless
Where restless Niggaz might snatch your necklace
And next these Niggaz might jack your Lexus
Somebody tell these Niggaz who Kanye West is
I walk through the valley of Chi where death is
Top floor the view alone will leave you breathless Uhhhh!
Try to catch it Uhhhh! It's kinda hard hard
Getting choked by the detectives yeah yeah now check the method
They be asking us questions, harass and arrest us
Saying "we eat pieces of shit like you for breakfast"
Huh? Yall eat pieces of shit? What's the basis?
We ain't going nowhere but got suits and cases
A trunk full of coke rental car from Avis
My momma used to say only Jesus can save us
Well momma I know I act a fool
But I'll be gone til November I got packs to move I Hope

(Jesus Walks)
God show me the way because the Devil trying to break me down
(Jesus Walks with me)
The only thing that I pray is that me feet don't fail me now
(Jesus Walks)
And I don't think there is nothing I can do now to right my wrongs
(Jesus Walks with me)
I want to talk to God but I'm afraid because we ain't spoke in so long

To the hustlas, killers, murderers, drug dealers even the strippers
To the victims of Welfare for we living in hell here hell yeah
Now hear ye hear ye want to see Thee more clearly
I know he hear me when my feet get weary
Cuz we're the almost nearly extinct
We rappers are role models we rap we don't think
I ain't here to argue about his facial features
Or here to convert atheists into believers
I'm just trying to say the way school need teachers
The way Kathie Lee needed Regis that's the way yall need Jesus
So here go my single dog radio needs this
They say you can rap about anything except for Jesus
That means guns, sex, lies, video tapes
But if I talk about God my record won't get played Huh?
Well let this take away from my spins
Which will probably take away from my ends
Then I hope this take away from my sins
And bring the day that I'm dreaming about
Next time I'm in the club everybody screaming out

(Jesus Walks)
God show me the way because the devil trying to break me down
(Jesus Walks)
The only thing that I pray is that me feet don't fail me now

Jesus never existed! He is a figment of the Europeans imagination. The Klansmen talk about "Jesus" are they "conscious"? [smiley=dozey.gif]

Kayne West is still an ignorant Black-American who is the victim of whites oppressions period.


B.K

It's a smart business move because any other image of Jesus wouldn't sell. People would say "Who is that?" and if they do that they'll lose a lot of money.

It's all about money in the end anyways

I can't decide if Yeshua actually existed or if he is the continuation and culmination of the many myths of other cutltures (Ausar for one)....but both of your posts ring true to me.

Kanye West shows his ignorance by saying the image of the Florintinian Fagot that he thinks is his God "walks with him"(He thinks his protector savior through life looks like this!? In other words he thinks a white man is his savior and "walks with him"...not a message I think African youth need for progression.)"...I wonder if his version of Yeshua has a "piece and chain" too???...lol...Come on now...this guy is NOT sending a possitive message. It's just that everything else is so horrible, it making this fool look good.

True dat sis! Faces to the immorality of BET hip-hop music and videos, the mass of Black people doesn't know REAL conscious lyrics... It's a shame this boy Kayne is wearing the whiteness of the Jesus who blesses the men who rape our women, lynch our youth, and then kill us with everyday living! Kayne West is thus a resolute idiot. He's just a money making monger. Many young Black children are buying into his niggerism sigh..  

B.K

Honestly I dont know if Yeshua existed or is just a make up tale, but honestly i do have to agree with Bantu when you state that most black don't know about real conscious lyrics,to me it is just that most blacks primarily the youth would prefer to listen to what is hot now like 50cent,Yin yan twins or D12 than to listen to Bob Marley,Peter Tosh,Sizzla or even Capelton because most youth are rapped in this ghetto mentality and if you aint singing about how much cash and girls you got or how much people you killed you aint worth listening too and that is just how it is seen in a yout eyes and that why many of them are so brainwashed and so far gone and too deep into it to realise at least for now.And kanye's stunt has carry the brainwashing further and also shows the great side effects of it believing that a white blonde hair blue eyes man can be a saviour for the black people but i guess this saying fits him:
Ignorance,timidty and laziness of one show how great these masters are at enslaving the mind, body and soul.

Bless

Well sisters, in looking at the inclusive evidence of an historical Jesus I say it has been suggested that there have lived in Syria sometime between 10 BCE and 1 BCE two or more religious teachers bearing the name Jesus, Jehoshua, Yoshua or Yeshua and the lives of these men have been confused with the Khemitic mythical personages grafted from the spiritual philosophy of ancient Khemit. Several of these teachers were crucified, which was a common execution form at the time.

Was one of those teachers the Christ or the messiah? I doubt it because it is accepted worldwide that the name and personality of "Christ" represents the Solar Power or Deity worshipped by every nation of antiquity, which represents the latent Divinity in all humans. The Buddhism, Shintoism, Taoism and Confucism religions consider "Jesus Christ" as being just another character in Western religious mythology, on a par with Thor, Zeus and Asuar (Osiris). Most Hindus do not believe in Jesus Christ, but those who do consider him to be one of the many avatars of the Hindu god Vishnu. Muslims certainly do not believe in Jesus the Christ either. They reject the New Testament story and consider him to be a prophet who announced the coming of Muhammad. In addition, there is no historical story of Jesus the Christ, which is uniformly accepted worldwide. I thus hold to the belief that "Jesus the messiah" was a FICTIONAL character just like Abraham, Moses, Aaron, David, Judah, Brahman, Buddha and more.

It has been the work of White Christians to impose and monopolize the White images of "Christ", which goes along with the manifestations of White supremacy. The Christian Church forces the doctrines of lies and alibis for oppression. The White/blonde/blue eyed Jesus Christ has been historically used by Whites to enslave Blacks the world over. Their creator "God" or "Jesus" stray the African people from their African authenticity of spirituality rather than bringing our people closer to getting genuine spiritual satisfaction. I dislike this religion intensely. It permits dogmatic, self-righteous, destructive rhetoric and superficial behavior. It is sterile and inorganic. That is why Christian followers Blacks like Whites often have to look outside the religion (Kabbalah, Astrology, Zen, Shamanism, etc.) to acquire the genuine spirituality that is lacking in its religion.

It makes no sense that Kayne West, a so-called "conscious" rapper, follows the images and rhetorical ethics of hypocrites. Those of our people who profess a love for the European model of Jesus Christ must be challenged about their beliefs if we are to progress towards true Liberation. We cannot as Conscious Black people achieve the path towards liberation if it is blocked by a White Jesus Christ on the minds of too many of our people. The Christian Church is still the bulwark of racism today, so it is clear that a concept of African personality and a complete freedom can never happen if it is in condition of copying the European cultural standards.


B.K

Greetings In The Name of The Most High,

Oshun said, "but then again we all should have known from jump. He is signed to 'Rockafella'." You know what the 1st time I heard his lyrics, then found out he was on Rockafella I thought the exact same thing... Not to say my theory is full proof, but this is my take on Mr. Kanye West:

Black America has in the recent future adopted this face of Afro-centricity. Girls with their pretty tapered fros, guys with their dreadlocks, & leather medallions that recite the name of His Imperial Majesty in vain is simply a fad. While some of our youth may actually find deeper meaning & fulfillment by educationg themselves, for the most part it just looks good. Ask the average young African American why they have chosen to wear their hair in it's natural state & I guarantee their will be some hesitance. Bcuz they don't know. We are lost & willing to invest time & money in whatever looks "cool" at the time & may give us a since of belonging in this foreign land.

Rockafella knows this, they know what's in style, they know what will sell. They know that our people are looking to be pacified with strong rhetoric & words that will "ok" our wrong doings. What a great business decision it was for Rockafella to invest in Kanye. He appeals to the poor & down trodden, however his motives is to make money. Not to uplift the people, but to rob them.

This jewelry is simply what Africans are taught to do in America. Take Take Take. While in turn we are feeding the system. We are making money for this land... taking it directly from our people. He is simply a pawn & his charm & appeal through his "righteous" messages is simply another tool being used to get our people to invest in useless junk like this dazzling Jesus.

Peace.

Good point. I am old enough to remember this happening before...de ja vu perhaps...Remember when everyone was sporting Africa medallions and beads while wearing red, black, green, and gold, Kente cloth, and walking sticks? So many people and companies jumped on the band wagon and commercialized it....I was always teased for staying "stuck in that erra"...I didn't take my Africa medallion off until it fell apart. Everyone else moved on to the next "trend".

[smiley=dozey.gif]..Yes, we see how wearing certain African clothing doesn't make you a true African..

IMO, a desire for African identity and self-knowledge is expresses by defying and fighting the Euro-American neo-colonial system of oppression. For instance, to wear Erica Badu's head wrap (I might add she looked like she was wearing a bath towel) will not serve the African revolution, but a Pan-African Nationalism mental state and behavior will! At any rate, being materialist, selfish or individualist is not what it means to be a true African or a conscious person. (Cf. our boy Kayne)

B.K

Bantu wrote:Buddhism, Shintoism, Taoism and Confucism religions consider "Jesus Christ" as being just another character in Western religious mythology, on a par with Thor, Zeus and Asuar (Osiris). Most Hindus do not believe in Jesus Christ, but those who do consider him to be one of the many avatars of the Hindu god Vishnu. Muslims certainly do not believe in Jesus the Christ either. They reject the New Testament story and consider him to be a prophet who announced the coming of Muhammad. In addition, there is no historical story of Jesus the Christ, which is uniformly accepted worldwide. I thus hold to the belief that "Jesus the messiah" was a FICTIONAL character just like Abraham, Moses, Aaron, David, Judah, Brahman, Buddha and more.

as i know Hindus who lived the communal life for sometime in Arizona with me,i will say the EXOTERIC teachings that the world gathers of this man,we know mostly has to do with the laws of the Sun and other Mystical things as well.in India,they know of a man called ISSA,who reasoned with the Brahmans about  the evils of the caste system and other things.of course their wouldnt be no Historical evidence because what ones know is what they give u,i will have to say Je-sus represents the Mythical,while Yahshua the Physical.theirs certain schools of thought that know of a man WAY DIFFERENT from the one of whom u speak that was a Yogi master,and not just the sun.in the Qu'ran,Allah says that Je-sus didnt die on the cross,but live till a RIPE OLD AGE,just like the early Gnostics (who combined the Greek mysteries with Kristianity)knew.if u were to go to the Buddhists and tell them that Buddha wasnt real,they would just walk away.the things that he did,we could do to,so how wasnt he HUMAN on earth?wasnt he like one of us?

Now for Kanye West,he's one of the people that says,its not about the skin color,but what he,like i said before,if its not about the skin color,WHY was the white imaged FORCED on us?i think hes trying to get money from this,but he doenst see the big picture.