Africa Speaks Reasoning Forum

Greetings bredrin and sistren. I have a simple question to propose for reasoning purposes. If you believe in the divinity of Selassie I, was He the Almighty himself, or was he a manifestation of Jah. Or was he a messenger of Jah. Do you worship Selassie I or do you worship Jah?

Greetings and blessings in the name of the most high. I believe you will get many responses with many points of view. I myself praise sellasie I , as i know him to be from the root of David, the only one  worthy to open the book with the seven seals. When i praise sellasie I , I am praising Jesus too, as they are one in the same. As far as the father is concerned, my livity and respect of my fellow man is my praise for him. I did not always feel this way, and it was a long hard road to get here. I am very young in Rasta, and have much to learn; however, I know that a covenant was made between Jah and David that his throne should be established forever, and that his offspring shall prevail to loose the seven seals. So it brings great comfort and joy to me to know that the root of David has indeed prevailed, and that Jah is still with us. Praise His Imperial Majesty, Emporer Haille Sellasie I. Jah bless, one love.
          nbsp;                        Kristian.

Yes I Kristian. Thank u for your reply. I myself praise his Majesty. I praise Jah too, but u see Selassie I is the Ideal I, he is the perfect manifistation of the LORD, so when we praise HIM we are also praising the LORD, represented in perpetual perfection at the pinnacle livity. JAH Rastafari is the one and only YES I. Now this may hurt wicked mans ears to say this. But it is written the name is dreadful and terrible to the heathen. Selah. Will not there come a day when the man that spills blood drops to his knees and begs for forgiveness and confesses his allegiance to the Most High Jah Rastafari Emperor Haile I Selassie I THE Conquering Lion of the Tribe of Judah, The Tribe of Africa, The Tribe of Everlasting Righteousness. Selah. Graces.

Greetings and Blessings Hailiniemporer. Yes I, it is truly a glorious and wonderful blessing to have been revealed a portion of Jah wisdom. To have comfort and strength in knowing that the master shall return to put his house in order, and that his loyal watchmen, the rastaman, shall return to zion. Selah. JAH RASTAFARI, king of kings , lord of lords. Many Rastas have been tricked, tricked into dividing themselves over skin color, or over this belief or that belief. It is unity we need in this time, no more division among rastaman. Morelove and blessings to you rasta. One love.         Kristian

"But it is written the name is dreadful and terrible to the heathen."

In the beginning was the word, and the word manifest itself in flesh. Realize this first --- It is the same for I and I . . . whatever I create was first present as a thought or word in I mind.

The name of the Most High is dreadful and terrible to one who is caught up in idol worship because the heathen has confused the idol for the Most High. Note this though . . . WE ALL approach the Most High with idols(words, thoughts, images - manifest or not manifest in flesh), the difference between I and I and the heathen though is KNOWING the difference, REGARDLESS of our religion.

Greetings In The Name of The Most High,

For the past few years, I have been in search of understanding the difference (if any) between JAH & His Imperial Majesty. As I studied the life & death of H.I.M. I have come to learn that He was & is worthy of praise, as well as worthy of the critism He has received from many Ethiopians & even Rastafarians. His influence & advancements towards the progress of Ethiopia is monumental & note worthy. However, in my search for the truth I cannot ignore the fact that mistakes were made by H.I.M. As pointed out by many prominent figures in African history (to include the Great Marcus Garvey), Emporer Selassie I was just that, an emporer. By no means am I degrading H.I.M. because He is worthy of many praises.

But, to specifically answer the question... I do praise H.I.M. for who He is & for His world-wide influences. But, I believe JAH is a separate entity closely affliated with H.I.M.

SELAM

raspek

so when ones are praising jesus are they praising H.I.M ?

if so wouldnt this make all christians ras tafari?

and if joseph isnt jesus father how is jesus from the lineage of solomon?

blessed
ras tafari

we are ALL gods and godessess if we open the SEVEN seals,for verily verily i say unto u,whoever opens the SEVEN energy centers(Chakras) in the body,has opened the seven seals.i have seen Holy Mount Zion (after one has felt the cool breeze of the Mother on the top of InI head,descending like a dove)coming with all her glory!this is NOT fulfilled by any one man,as i do hail H.I.M as a Anscestor in this physical realm who DID make mistakes,for even YSH and his consort Magdalene  made mistakes in this physical realm (thats how we get STRONGER,from REAL-EYEZING faults).God is in InI,DO NOT,i repeat,DO NOT SEPERATE U-SELF from the Alpha and Omega,for they would get all the praise,and u on the other hand will end up with the same earthly clothes,instead of the white robe!Hotep

"DO NOT SEPERATE U-SELF from the Alpha and Omega"

Truuue... what many have a difficult time overstanding is how Sellassie I can be called JAH. This realeyezation of JAH dwelling within is the key to comprehending the Most High. Without this realeyezation, to worship His Imperial Majesty is to be committing idolatry. It is fully surrendering to His Majesty's glory that is spoken of through Yahushuah in the Bible and the essene gospels, and through His Majesty's speeches, that one comes to know thyself. Haile Sellassie I has come now as Christ in His Kingly character, as InI must now all come to realeyez ourselves as Kings and Queens.

This concept of Jah dwelling in man is something that is either felt or not felt. If felt, the love of His Majesty is a much easier reality to swollow. Most importantly, love is JAH... love thyself and love others as thyself... all will come after.

Blessed Love
RasTafarI

Correct the I if I am wrong, but aren't we all supposed to manifest JAH?  So then, what makes Haile Selassie I elevated above any other dedicated follower of JAH way?

Personally, I view Selassie I as a great man, but just that a man.  I also view Jesus the same way, a great man, a son of Jah...But I don't worship Jesus either...

"Then Jesus said to him:  Go away, Satan!  For it is written, 'It is Jehovah your God you must worship and to him alone you must render sacred service.'" -Matthew 4:10

YES.



I would say coming to know thyself is approaching full OVERSTANDING of ones own strengths and weaknesses, working to become more righteous, character development and fully manifesting the I's ablilty to be a CREATOR of Right on the earth even if it is in the small realm that is I and I personal lives. Knowing thyself cannot be found in a book, it cannot be found in a speech - one can gain knowledge from the words of another, but WISDOM is an internal process that one must come to within ONESELF. It is at this juncture that I and I "realeyez ourselves as Kings and Queens." and know that the words  "Haile Sellassie I has come now as Christ in His Kingly character" is speaking of the MOST HIGH WITHIN OURSELVES as we have DEVELOPED the KINGLY/QUEENLY character. It is at this time that I and I walk with H.I.M. because Christ in His Kingly Character has manifested within ourselves.

Guidance.

I agree with you in that it is the TRUTH we "worship", not the symbol of the truth. And it is necessary to KNOW the difference.

Glad you overstood my point...JAH is a spirit (1 Jn 4:8) - we can't see, touch, or feel him, but only worship him in a way that we are capable of internalizing within our own mind, spirit and heart.

[shadow=red,left,300]Knowing thyself cannot be found in a book, it cannot be found in a speech - one can gain knowledge from the words of another, but WISDOM is an internal process that one must come to within ONESELF. [/shadow]

True,there is a saying that Knowledge without Experience is JUST Information.

[shadow=red,left,300]It is at this juncture that I and I "realeyez ourselves as Kings and Queens." and know that the words  "Haile Sellassie I has come now as Christ in His Kingly character" is speaking of the MOST HIGH WITHIN OURSELVES as we have DEVELOPED the KINGLY/QUEENLY character[/shadow].

just like our Royal rulers in the land of Kemet & Nubia,the Pharoahs wer Earthly representations of Heru,the King of the Pharoahs,they were sons of the SUN.we must learn to rule I-Selves in Righteousness like InI ansestors when alone or around others.

[shadow=red,left,300]Glad you overstood my point...JAH is a spirit (1 Jn 4:8) - we can't see, touch, or feel him[/shadow]

:oWOW Out Of Zion,u cant see u God...well i see the Creative spirits in Nature with matter for clothing. :ou cant touch ur God?i Know u would say Jah is spirit and we are flesh,but if so.just become the spirit while in flesh,its possible.as far as the feeling part,the one who u Think created u must be out of his mind for creating u,yet seperating himself from u from fear of "God" likeness,lol :D.

"Therefore God, in keeping with the desires of their hearts, gave them up to uncleanness, that their bodies might be dishonored among them, even those who exchanged the truth of God for the lie and venerated and render sacred service to the creation rather than the creator, who is blessed forever.  Amen."  Rom 1:24,25

Well this is getting weird. I for one do not advocate leaving mama earth on an ego spaceship thinking that the Creator is somehow not present in the creation.

I give thanks for life, all life as they are expressions of the Creator.

I will give thanks to every tree that give me shelter, every plant that gives me nourishment, every animal that provides a service - as their breath of life has been sacrificed so that I may I-tinue mine. Animals, plants and all of nature can teach us much about the Creator as the Creator is ever present in them.

Enough of the Romans.

Out Of Zion,where does it say i worshipped (which ur WESTERN thought MISS-EDUCATION) creation,rather,i dont move by "Blind Faith",as ur creHator wants to wait until u go to "heaven" to see him,lol. :D

Not sure.  Just saying, when you see a painting you don't say to the painting, "WOW, you're a great painting."  You say to the painter, "Wow, what a great painting."  Similarly, the creation reflects the glory of the Creator, but is not the Creator living incarnate.  I don't think I'm expounding anything altogether too radical, Paul epistle or not.

Nazarite, I don't believe in going to heaven to see the Creator.  That's not part of my faith.

What IS a radical departure in the Judeo-Christian mindest from the natural state that indigenous people live in is the intense SEPERATION that this point of view can create between the Creator and Creation. When one sees creation as fallen - there is a rationalization to exploit and subjugate the natural world. When one does not see the right to life of all life as sharing that divine spark of life, it has and continues to open up the intellectual doors to the rape and pillage of the natural environment.

Here sister you have my complete agreement and shared annoyance except I attribute it to something different.  Instead of it being the "fallen nature" that is the cause, I think it is the whole bit of "made in God's image" that leads ones to think wrongly that they and they alone know what is best for the earth...and as we see - they do not

I am not a woman, just for previous reference. Bless.

#*#)*!@!

That's the 2nd time I have made that mistake on this board (genderizing).

What's worse is I have had PMs with you and not even known that....I appologize.  

Same thing happened to me so I know it's a bit emmasculizing.  What's strange is I don't rightly know why I make the assumptions like that when I do...

It's cool. No offense taken at all.

It's obvious this post got a little off track.  The question was, "Is Selassie I God?"  I do feel a deep love for His Majesty, and would like to express my thoughts, or at least a little portion of them.  It is a fact that His Majesty was a devout Ethiopian Orthodox Christian, and my point is that H.I.M.  worshipped JAH himself, I cannot beleive that JAH would worship JAH.  So that being stated I know Selassie is not JAH.  As one who looks to the Ethiopian Orthodox faith for my own guidance I have come to honor many Saints, as they are chosen by the Tewahedo faith.  A Saint is someone who lived so righteously on Earth they were chosen by JAH to be honored and exalted on high, were put here for people to look at as shining examples of what we could be or could do in service of the Creator.  Selassie came to this earth through the union of His mother and father, rooted in David, to loose the seven seals by freeing the Kingdom of God from the clutches of Satan.  Although the Tewahedo faith does not acknowledge Selassie's saintly status, I do.  I feel that the Selassie was like Enoch, in that he was so right in his works he simply vanished into the love of JAH.  I really hope that people who do view Selassie as JAH, or as Iyasus incarnate, aren't offended by this.  To each their own, we're all seeking the same goal, I think JAH presents different paths for different people.  On that note, SelassieI guides and protects forever, as Alpha and Omega are infinity.Selam

  Give thanks for the thoughts. The question, Is Selassie I God, should not be answered until clarifications are made and then the question should not be answered in the context of western thought pattern. What is the meaning of the English word GOD, and what is the Eastern meaning of the word. It is clear that if the meaning of GOD is the creator, then obviously Selassie I is not the creator in the creator's fullness. It is your duty to define Selassie I within the context of your own self and african tadition. The word Haile selassie I means the power of the trinity. Irrespective of the deep indulgences in the western religeon's view of the trinity, that might seep through inferentially within the reasoning, the trinity can only be defined in a purely abstract factoid manner. There are only three things in existence. 1. The creator, 2, The creation [ process of creation, which is continuous and ever happenning, disregard the genesis 7 days ] and 3, the created, the product of the creator utilizing the creative process. The power of the three is life. That is the power of the trinity. His majesty is God in that he has lived to the utmost, to the fullest extent that the spirit of the creator can exist in the flesh created, the Alpha Male of this millinium.That is why many werterners  calls him the perfect man god].
You can examin the life of his majesty and he will  far exceed , in virtue, truth and rights and the love of life , all the others, saints and messiah alike.
This rerasoning is ongoing.
peace and love
Rastanow

Oh what a fellin I get when I get opportunities like this – to s.h.a.r.e with mai bread-dreads an sis-dreads.  I truly appreciate this opportunity even though I have no real authority and to some extent credibility in this livity, JAH bless the initiator and to HIM for the inspiration.
This is one of the oldest and most under-rated q’s in and of all time: many take it for granted and some think have the answer but cant provide straight proof to this q’n.  it is the most asked coz jesus, whose real and actual name is EMMANUEL, was asked this q’n even by His disciples, those who said and supposed to have better knowledge of HIM truly; what is happening even in this time and age amongst and within ini.
There is a new topic I started called – “lost in translation” – which part of I reveal in this sharing session on wherethere SELASSIE I is GOD OR NOT?
Well, as u can recall the decsiples asking HIM to explain who he realy was and who he actually was and he said: “I AM WHO I AM!”  now we know that was a coded name of his; a name when translated into numerics, the old way writing, we find his name, what it means in the script’s original language.  But what is really is interesting and stands as testimony to his prophecy that the truth or the word will be “hidden” in the scripture as many though have eyes will not see and as though have eyes they will not hear, is his real name, EMMANUEL, coz this is very important in finding who he is in truth, in fact, in essence and in real life, that is human form co the name means “GOD WITH US!”.  This one of the most biggest revelations humanity has ever received but ignored to us fulfilling a prophecy coz as the proverbs teach: “prophecy is for the faithful; those who have the faith” coz even when He was revealing this to his instrument issaih he clearly explained why he was doing this as he said: “there will nolonger be a mediator, a middleman between us, man and JAH”  that should have been enough for us to have faith in him and follow him but we still needed more proof as so he provided through out the jurney to his crucificition: * recall when he was asked by his servents where he was going where they could not go until the time arrives he said – “I am going to MY-SELF… to prepare a place for you”, that is a hudge revelation that we missed again but predictably too.  
·      recall again the encounter with the 7-demon possessed man? What those demons said to him when they saw him but what was even revealing was his reply as he said in a very strong and warning voice and tone: “don’t u reveal me or my name to these people”, that was very powerful too, telling and clearly revealing who he was even in that lowered human form;
·      and again the word states that “there was first the WORD and the word was with god and the word was GOD, spoken of among the nations, qualified in the spirit revealed to all and saw reseracting to the heavens” maybe in not so many words, and so later when he came to reveal he clearly admits that he is the “WORD”, “THE TRUTH” AND “THE LIGHT”, CLEALR revealing HIM-self to all.

Now some might asking what does this have to do with SELASSIE I coz “rasta no believe much less talk about no jesus” naff said coz that is not what they are actually saying coz we now know how crucial a name is to a person’s identy or his-story: it reveals all, from who he is to where he’s from down to his physical features and appearance as prophet jewel warned of the “locust’s” intention to the “stalk”, what the missionaries did to the real identity of christainity.
Now we know that jesus or Emmanuel was never crowned “king of kings, lord of lords the conqouring lion of the tribe of juda” coz as he said he was only coming to “fulfil the law” of moses as he later clearifies by saying he is the “fulfillment of the law” meaning he was GOD coz we know that “through the law u are made free of the law of man” coz through “his light we see the light” as he is the light. Only the one “worthy” to open the 7th seal will be crowned as such and that will be the revelation of GOM HIM-SELF, a “perfect manifestation of god” as some refer to him meaning and indirectly confesing that he is GOD and not a god or prophet but a MESSIAH as john revealed of the one “whose shoe laces he cant even tie up”.  Only HELESSIE THE FIRST was crowned that by all the nations on earth when the 72 representatives gathered in his coronation in 1963, including the he-she devil pope and elizard-bitch.  They went crowning him as emperor or king or ruler or president but giving him the third and final crown to seal the prophecy – the “POWER OF THE TRINITY” ONLY GOD CAN BE CALLED THAT as the scripture clearly states and HAILE SELASSIE means just that, THE POWER OF THE TRINITY, revealing that he is GOD in human form coz the lamb is among us and not in heaven only his “power” lies in the heavens; and even he was asked in a radio interview of his visit to JAH-MAKER, get it?, of what he had to say when “some people” believed him to be GOD, and not a god, he said something like: “if that is what they believe me to be let them” neither denying the title or discouraging it.  And by the way, the visit was on the 23rd of April, remember Egypt, pharoh and moses, now recall his reasons for going to JAH-MAKER as he listed them – “to stop the blood ….” That is no coincidence.  He then reveals that in Ethiopia now called, they have the “oldest bible” in the world, what does that mean?  That it was first written there as paul reveals in his acts b4 he crucified himself in the boat that he was sent to “teach the about the good word to the isrealites scattered umongst the gentiles, the gentlemen of this age, we now know that pope credeibility as the receiver of the right or authority to call himself “the vicor of Christ”, to form a church in italy was all thanks to this foundation john left when he went there;
And recall the story, to some fiction, of rita Marley’s final seal into the movement?  When he showed her and prophet BOB joseph his wholes proving that he was one and the same man as jesus, infact emmanuel, as he was Jacob, melchezidech, proving that yes whe he prayed he prayed to himself as he did in the mount when his disciples saw three figure, Elijah was one of them; now we know that the name HAILE SELASSIE is three names combined and when dissembled ELIAH, AND ELIJAH are found and remember when emmanuel cried out in the cross?  And to sum it all up he said way back in the beginning of it all – “I need not sacrifiesed but for u to acknowledge me as God, your God!” – that is the biggest revelation of it all, one that completes his motives and reveals him totally – from the way he looked to the way he lived, that was big.  Ask yo-SELF why it is so hard to just acknowledge HIM as GOD, we haven’t talked about ganja, tribes, and all the rest yet, for the same reason we are all in this mess – that “we saw HIM and where terrified”; the same reason our forefathers didn’t’ want to climb the mount; the very reason there was a war in heaven that later created the monster Lucifer and humans – that we wanted to GOD as many still bolbly admit and testify.  The bible and all of creation prove that “only that ONE WORTHY enough to open the 7th, and not the 7 seals coz we can all open the 6 seals, activate the 6 senses we already have though what we eat, but wisdom, the 7th seal, some bibles call it “intelligence” and some add “insight”, come from JAH as a proverb states and as nature testifies.  And also he sais in psalm 82 that as though he “called” us “GODS” WE will die as all creatures do and as ordinary man, as princes of this world.  Proving that “only” he can be GOD and not gods. So see, yes SELASSIE IS GOD as the name clearly reveals – H.I.M HAILE SELASSIE THE FIRST,       COZ HE IS THE FIRST AND THE LAST, THE WORD THAT WAS SPOLEN THEN SEEN RISING TO AND INTO THE SKIES THAT WAS PREPARING A PLACE FOR US ALL, THAT IS AMONG US.  ONLY HE CAN REACH PERFECTION AS WE CAN ONLY STRIVE FOR IT!  YOU CAN NEVER BURRY ONE MAN THREE TIMES, THAT IS WHY COULD NEVER FIND HIS BONES, NOMATTER WHAT THEY SAY!  COZ THOSE THEY CLAIMED WAS OF HIM WE NOW KNOW THAT THEY COULD HAVE NEVER BEEN OF HIM COZ THEY WERE TOO LONG AS HE WAS A VERY SHORT MAN AMONGST MANY! SO JAH BLESS – AND DON’T BE LIKE PETER DENYING HIM 3 TIMES EVEN WHEN HE SAW AND LIVED WITH HIM!  AS THIS WORLD REVEALS – “WE DON’T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH RASTAFIANISM IT’S THE CLAIM THAT SELASSIE IS GOD THAT BOTHER US AND THE USE OF GANJA THAT’S ALL” ASK YO-SELF WHY?

TO ADD ON - THE SCRIPTURE SAID IN HEBREW THAT "THE ONE TO COME LATER WILL HAVE CHILDREN (SEEDS)" AND IT ALSO SAID "HE" WILL KNOWN OR ALSO CALLED OR NICKNAMED "MR SMITH" AND "MR STRONG" AND WE KNOW THAT ONLY HIM HAILE SELASSIE I WAS THE ONLY RULER TO BE CALLED THAT - WHEN HE WAS INVITED BY THE ITALIANS FOR DISCUSSIONS HE WENT BUT THEN REALISED IT WAS A TRAP, A PLOY TO CAPTURE HIM SO TO INVADE AND PLUNDER ITHOPIA BUT AS THEY LOCKED HIM IN THEIR PRISON AND BEGAN INVADING ITHIOPIA HE WAS THEN SEEN IN THE BATTLE FIELD WITH AN "OCEAN" OF AN ARMY RIDDING ON A WHITE HORSE WITH THE PRISON GATES WIDE OPEN IN ITALY WITH NO ONE BEING ABLE TO EXPLAIN HOW AND WHEN, AND AS MUSSILINI SAW THIS HE FIRED A CANNON BALL AT HIM BUT SELASSIE I STEPPED ON IT WITH HIS FOOT AND STOOD OVER IT WITHOUT IT EXPLODING SO FULFILLING THE PROPHECY "MR STRONG" AND THAT NONE OF THEIR WEAR-PONS WILL WORK AGAINST HIM AND THE LETTER FULFILING THE "MR SMITH" PART OF THE PROPHECY.  REVELATION REVEALS HIM TOO, NOT EMMANUEL OR JESUS BUT HAILE SELASSIE.  ISSIAH SPEAKS OF HIS REVELATION OF THE SON TO COME TWICE, 1ST AS A MAN IN A HUDGE CLOUD COVERRING A THRONE CARYING CHERUBIM AND 2ND AS EMMANUEL AND THEN AS THE SON, THE COMFORTOR, DEFENDER AND THE WAY.  THERE ARE SO MANY, CAN FIND THEM?  IF U CAN PLZ SHARE WITH INI.  PLZ LET US SHARE BREAD-DREADS. PEEEEEACE!!!

peace
In my humble opinion the non-physical world is neither living or dead......its beyond life or death...
Yes King Selassie is the true and living God.......

I don't believe that Selassie is God for the mere fact that he said he wasn't and he worshipped God himself.

I do however believe that like Moses, Samuel, David & Jesus Christ...King Selassie was a chosen servant of Jah and should be exalted and held in high esteem here on earth. He is worthy of hail and praise but I don't believe he is God and should be prayed to.

I don't worship Haile Selassie nor do I worship Jesus Christ, but I admire their lives and study and follow their teachings. I worship the one and only Jah Almighty, Creator of all things. Whenever I say "Jah Rastafari" I really mean Jah/God of Rastafari.

Blessings

IT DOENST TAKE A GENIUS TO KNOW CERTAIN THINGS.WHAT DOES THE NAME HAILE SELASSIE MEAN?KNOW THIS,AND U KNOW THAT THIS IS THE DESTINY OF WOMB/MAN,THIS IS HOW ONE BECOMES A KRST ON EARTH,OR A BUDDHA IF U PLEASE.

True King Selassie I is God the spirit inna HIM is the greatest
we in Afrika how are rastafarians know this even without reading the bible we OVERSTAND this most rastas in babylon always chant say REPATRATION yet them no come down Afrika to see wa gwan how  then can you know the powers of the KING wen you no come see it jus like the QUEEN of SHEBA  see it know it

let rastas come together

Afrika is our HOME    

so u see ini why there are topics like "what are we realy fighting for" and "lost in translation" for ini to have a clearer overstanding of JAH work and the "actual" perception and conception of HIM so to gain wisness, knowledge and overstanding in "His" ways, and not ours, so when we speak, esp of HIM AND ABOUT HIM we would be justified and fulfil "His" will and not ours coz He only must be exolted.  this is in responce to all sharings posted hear, none refer to what jah has said only interpretations and regurgitations of what we've understood.  that is not good for those of us who are still riseng coz we have to know where to go when we're in trable in the faith.  that's why we get so confused coz we make people believe and not have faith; we make em believe in themselves and not on HIM Haile Selassie I, GOD HIM SELF.  WE HAVE TOTALY DRAWN PEOPLE AWAY FROM JAH, GOD, BY MAKING THEM RELY IN AND ON THIER OWN SPIRITS OR SOULS OR ABILITIES OR WHATEVER YALL CALL IT (ONE OF THE WORDS WE MUST DIGEST AND SHARE APON) AND NOT ON THE CREATOR HIMSELF - WE HAVE MADE PEOPLE FORGET THE MAKER AND MADE THEM FOCUS ON THE THINGS OF THIS WORLD: WE HAVE HAVE FORSAKEN THE CALLING OF RASTA "TO BE THE LIGHT TO THIS WORLD" AND "THE SALT OF THIS EARTH": TO BRING NATION, ALL NATIONS BACK TO THE CREATOR WHOM WE BELIEVE IS THE ONLY GOD, THE ONE THE BIBLE IS TALKING ABOUT, THE ONE ALL OTHER NATIONS AND RELIGIONS BELIEVE THEY ARE PRAISING; WE HAVE NOT TAKEN THEM TO THE SOURCE - THE LIVING WORD; THE PUREST VINE; THE BIBLE; JAH'S WORD - HIS BREATH WAS BLOWN IN IT, THAT MEANS A LOT AND VERY HEAVEY TO THE MIND AND BODY, THAT IS WHY WE TIRE!  THAT IS WHY U WILL HEAR INI REFERING TO INI SELVES AS "GODS", "PRIEST" AND ALL THOSE THINGS AND FINDING OURSELVES ASKING SUCH Q'NS - IT HURTS TO STILL FIND THAT INI AMONG INI NOT BELIEVING THAT SELASSIE IS GOD HIMSELF AND NOT ANYTHING ELSE COZ THAT IS WHAT INI WERE ASKING EVEN HIM IN THE BIBLE AND HE ANSWERED THAT Q'N IN PARABLES IN THE FORM OF JESUS OR EMMANUEL (ANOTHER WORD WE MUST DISCUSS) AND PLAINLY AND SELASSIE - IT IS BECOZ WE ALL LOST SIGHT OF THE POINT, THE PRIZE, OUR DESTINATION, JAH!  COZ EVEN IN PSALM 87 HE TELLS US WHERE THE GARDEN OF EDEN IS AND PROVIDES THE ANSWER TO THE Q'N IF SELASSIE IS GOD IN SO MANY WAYS.  BUT THE BIBLE ALSO WARNS US OF SUCH PEOPLE AND THESE TIMES AND TOLD US WHAT TO DO WHEN THEY COME - HOW ARE U GOING TO TELL PEOPLE WHO KNOW NOTHING ABOUT SELASSIE OR JAH, WHO WERE BROUGHT UP UNDER THE VATICAN RULE IF U DONT REFER THEM TO THE ONE THING THEY BELIEVE - THE BIBLE.  EVEN IT SAIS THAT WHEN JAH COMES TO JUDGE, HE WONT BE THE ONE TAKING DIRECT JUDGEMENT BUT THOSE 144 THOUSAND USING THE VERY SAME BOOK TOO. THAT IS WHY YOULL FIND SOME SAYING THEY DONT NEED TO READ THE BIBLE TO KNOW THAT SELASSIE IS GOD AS THOUGH THEY HAVE EXTRA-ORDINARY POWERS BUT STILL CANT PROVIDE TANGABLE EVIDENCE FOR HIS UTTERANCE, THAT IS VERY DANGEROUS, READ JUDGES 7 AND SEE HOW THE GREAT OR THE INSTUMENTS OF JAH ARE CHOSE AS IT SADLY SAIS IN SOME OTHER PART OF THE SCRIPTURE: "MANY WILL BE CALLED BUT FEW CHOSEN" AND WERE DO WE, THE CALLED BUT NOT CHOSEN GO FOR FURTHER INSPIRATION WHEN U HAVE PEOPLE TELLING US WE HAVE TO READ THE WIND TO FIND GOD WHEN WE DONT EVEN READ OR EVEN UNDERSTAND THE BIBLE ITSELF.  HOW DO U REPATRIATE WHEN U DONT EVEN KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING AND WITH WHOSE PERMISSION TO DO WHAT AT WHOSE AUTHORITY!  WHEN EVEN THE GENERAL OVERSTANDING AND ELDER'S SHARING CLEARIFY THAT RASTA BELIEVES IN THE 3R'S: "REPATRIATION", "REPARATION" AND "REDEMTION" AND THAT THESE MUST FIRST HAPPEN WITHIN INI, SPIRITUALY, AND THEN WITHOUT INI, PHYSICALY.  YES THERE ARE THOSE WHO HAVE "CLEANED" AND CLEARED A PATH FOR THEMSELVES TO MOVE BACK HOME BUT STILL LOST THEIR WAY OR FIND THEIR SOULS LOCKED UP IN THE PRISON OF THE MIND AND CANT RIGHT NOW, BUT KNOW THAT ONLY JAH HIMSELF IS GOING TO REDEEM ISREAL (JACOB, INI) OUT OF ALL THEIR SINS AND PART OF PSALM 130 REMINDS.  SO WERE IS IT WHEN U WILL FIGHT FOR YOURSELF OUT OF THIS SYSTEM?  U SEE, THE PROBLEM IS IN THE SOURCE - WE DONT GO TO THE SOURCE AND THE SCRIPTURE SAIS: "ALL WILL COME UP TO FACE THE MOST HIGH" NOT SPIRITUALY BUT PHYSICALY U CAN HEAR AND SEE THE CHARIOTS PASS OVER INI HEADS EVERYDAY AND NIGHT.  THE PROVERBS SAY: "A RASTA MAN MAKES KNOWLEDGE ATTRACTIVE" WE CANT EVEN QUOTE ONE LET ALONE FULLY OVERSTAND IT - THUS THIS CONFUSION; FUSSING AND FIGHTING.  AND ALSO WE DONT KNOW HOW TO RESPOND TO IT COZ WE DONT KNOW WHAT IS REALY GOING ON LET ALONE DEFEND IN THESE TIMES, THAT IS WHY WE HAVING SOME RASTA COMPETING OR GOING HEAD ON INTO BATTLE WITH THE ENERMY WITHOUT GETTING FULLY DRESSED IN THE ARMOUR OF JAH - SOME BELIEVE A LIFE LUXURY IS THE WAY TO GO WHEN THE SCRIPTURE SAIS THAT AS IT WAS IN THE BIGININ SO SHALL IT BE IN THE END - THAT'S WHY WE NOW USE WORDS SUCH AS "evolution", WHY SOME FIGHT FOR THE LEGALISATION OF GANJAH WHEN THE SCRIPTURE SAIS IT IS LEGAL TO THOSE WHO KNOW THE TRUTH AND WHO UNDERSTAND WHY THEY ARE FIGHT AND RESISTING IT SO MUCH.  U SEE IT IS IMPORTANT TO WATCH WHAT U SAY AND HOW U SAY IT - NOT THE WORDS BUT THE MESSEGE COZ IT'S NOT THE MATTER THAT MATTERS BUT THE SUBSTANCE; IT'S NOT WHAT IS SAID THAT IS IMPORTANT BUT THE PRINCIPLE THAT IS BIENG TOUGHT.  THESE ARE LEVELS U REACH AFTER GREAT STUYING OF WHAT U ALREADY HAVE COZ IN FACT WE ARE ALL BEINGS THAT FORGOT WHO THEY ARE AND ARE TRYING TO REMEMBER, THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE ON EARTH - WHAT DO U YOU THINK STARTED THE WAR IN HEAVEN?  WHO IS THE "SERPENT" WHEN HE WAS JAH'S BEST AND FAVOURITE SINGER?  HOW ARE WE TO FIGHT WITH THIS "DEVIL" WHEN HE-SHE CAN GO TO HEAVEN AS HE PLEASES, READ JOB, HOW AND WHY HE WAS SMITTEN AND WAS HE SMITTEN TO BEGIN WIT?!  U SEE WE NEED TO READ THE SCRIPTURE IF IT'S BENEFITS DONT MOTIVATE INI IT PUNISHMENTS SHOULD!
WHY DO U THINK SELASSIE WAS LABLED A "DICTATOR" WHEN ALL HE WAS WAS JUST A KING OR AN EMPORROR?  READ HIS BIOGRAPHY, SEACH ABOUT HIS LIFE AND COMPARE IT WITH THAT OF OTHER SO-CALLED "DISTATORS" OF THIS WORLD AND U WILL BE AMAIZED.  WHAT WAS HE FIGHTING FOR IN THE MASS CONGRIGATION OF LEADERS THAT DIED AND SOME STILL LIVING IN THIS "AFRIKAN STRUGGLE"!  THE LIKES OF MUGABE, GHADHAFIH AND THE LIKES.  THESE ARE NOT POLITITIANS FIGHTING OVER CLAWS IN A TRADE CONTRACT, READ AND SEARCH SOME MORE.  WE ARE SO EDUCATED BY THE ENEMY AND THEN STILL THINK WE CAN BEAT THEM IN THEIR GAME, WHO'S REALY FOOLING WHO?  THIS REMINDS ME OF WORDS LIKE "BRAIN-WASH" AND "SLAVARY" WE SO LOST WE NEED TO SEARCH AND FIND OUR WAY HOME AND THE SCRIPTURE SAIS THAT NO ONE FINDS GOD, HE FINDS US AND THAT HE NEVER ABANDENS US OR LEAVES US OR WALKS AWAY FROM US BUT WE DO AND EVEN WHEN WE DO HE STAYS LOYAL AND FOLLOWS US EVERYWHERE KEEPING TO MANY OF HIS PROMISES AND FULFING PART OF PSALM 23 THAT "GOODNESS (IN SOME SCRIPTURES IT SAIS "LOVE") AND MERCY WILL FOLLOW INI FOR THE REST OF INI DAYS" AND WHEN SOME OF INI OPEN THE 3RD EYE AND START TO SEE THE SPIRITUAL RHELM WITHOUT KNOWING THE SOURCE OF THAT KNOWLEDGE WHEN THEY GET COUGHT AND TIRED THEY CRY FOUL AND CLAIM THAT EVIL IS FOLLOWING THEM WHEN IN FACT JAH'S ANGELS ARE THE ONES FOLLOWING THEM AND THUS CURSING THE MOST HIGH. AND HOW CAN U SEARVE SOMEONE U DONT BELIEVE LOYALY AND FAITHFULLY, WITH ALL YO HEART AND MIND AND MIGHT, AS HE DEMANDS? PLEASE INI LET US SPEAK OF JAH AND JAH ALONE, WE NEED HIM TO SURVIVE AND ENDURE THESE TIMES AS THE SCRIPTURE TEACHES!  PEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEACE!!!

It's a fact that His Majesty said "Do not worship the flesh."  So was it Selassie's most Christ-like consciousness that allows us to exalt him so.  I know H.I.M. never died, just like Iyasus, but why would H.I.M. build churches for people to worship Iyasus but not himself.  Selassie never said he was God, but Iyasus did, was His Majesty just too humble?, or was he trying to guide us.  I read as much of Selassie's words as I can get my hands on and not once  has he asked to be regarded as more than a King.  Part of me wants to worship Selassie's divinity as it is obvious his consciousness progressed to a divine level, and part of me wants to know that Iyasus came back as Selassie.  If the latter is true I feel that H.I.M. would have told us so, why would he hide it?  
     Sixth born I am also confused on your reasoning regarding Selassie being jailed in Italy and then escaping, I've never heard this before, I would appreciate some clarification or references.  Please don't view this as an attack bredren.  H.I.M. is shrouded in mystery, and so divine, as we are all the children of Igzabhier we are all divine and all capable of attaining a higher height yet we would not worship ourselves as we are trying to free up from our own ego.  Was H.I.M doing the same, He is my guide, He showed me Iyasus, He showed me Ethiopia, moreover He showed me love.  Reasoning on this is wonderful, Selam NB

When did Iyesus say this?

And this isn't an attack either, I just want to know.

H.I.M. said (in response to the question "Are you God?"): "I have heard of that idea. I also met certain Rastafarians. I told them clearly that I am a man, that I am mortal, and that I will be replaced by the oncoming generation, and that they should never make a mistake in assuming or pretending that a human being is emanated from a deity."

Wasn't Iyesus Kristus human? I believe H.I.M. was a follower of Christ, in the same way I'm a follower of Haile Selassie & Je-sus Christ. Following their teachings and adopting their values, not worshipping them.

I KNOW HAO THIS CAN BE RESOLVED.WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WORSHIP AND REVERENCE AND HONOR?

When did Iyasus say he was God?  I suppose he only said "I am he."  Which is open to as much interpretation to just as much as anything else these days.  On reflection of my earlier comment I was basing it on my own faith, faith in the fact that Iyasus was not just a man, but rather God manifested in a man's body.  What man is born of a Virgin?  Yes, this is monophysitism.  Did Iyasus ever say he was a man? only a man?  I'm certainly under the impression that he was trying to lead us to a different conclusion.  
     What's the difference between worship and reverence?  Do I merely revere Selassie?  I would like to think not, although I know my king asked not to be worshiped.  Selassie appeared as the supreme example of Christ-consciousness in man, a level attained through serious righteousness and love for the Almighty, resulting in his own divinity.  I have no doubt that Selassie would have told me that Iyasus was God.  But would H.I.M. be so humble as to deny himself as God, if he really was?  Every day I am feeling more and more inclined to follow His Majesty's lead, meaning the Ethiopian Orthodox faith, is this not what He would have wanted?  Give Thanks bredren, Selam  
     

Why is it Jews don't recognise Yeshua as The Christ? Jesus didn't fulfill the prophesies of Isaiah, so how is he The Christ? He wasn't of the root of David [smiley=confused.gif]

Read this: http://www.mutabaruka.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=60

greetins again in the name of the "MOST HIGH", get it, as in the only living being that is highiest obove all that was and is and will be - and only GOD and not a "god" can be this as the 1930 coronation was confirmiming coz in exodus moses took elders up into the mount into the cloud to meet GOD HIMSELF and the elders were shocked to see that HE was just a man, in fact some scriptures say HE was a short, small faced man, as SELASSIE is. may HIS wisdom guide and lead ini as we share.
now, i have been trying to find the document that has the infomation on SELASSIE'S capture by the roman authorities when HE was invited over for discussions on the state and position of Ithiopia's goverment on the world's crisis, but couldnt find a spicific book but remember well that it was also on a jah hug publication about 4 or 3 years ago.  now i know that's not enough to qualify as proof but believe me it is, i just though it was general knowledge umangst ini.  it was also spoken about, in detail, in mussilinni's address to the his authorities when spoke of how SELASSIE's methods of fighting as he refered to them as "black magic" - find that and u will find that story.
and, SELASSIE never said HE was GOD, that is true, but that is complete iether coz in HIS quote when HE was interviewed during the JAH-MACAN visit, which was also a fulfilment of a prophecy, HE was asked this very q'n and He answered, not in so many words, that "...if they believe me to be God, so be it, but im just as human as they are" the same respose as jesus would give when he was asked this very q'n - "i am who i am" or "what do you see me as?" a retorical q'n and remember when he was asked b4 his judges and pilato b4 he was to be crucified if he was the king of the jews, he said "u siad it." that is one of the ways we were to identify the most high, "...he will be speaking in parables but in his last coming he will make it clear to all"  that is how SELASSIE spoke and delt with the public coz HIS way was rooted in "faith", faith was the key to all his knowledge and king-man as he also said: "blessed are those who believe without seing" as the definition of faith is the belief in what is not seen, basically saying blessed are those who have faith in HIS NAME:  those who believe that HE IS GOD and not a prophet or whatever most would call him coz a "PERFECT MANEFESTATION OF GOD" is when one becomes connected, physicaly with GOD and not all can reach this state but the "ONE" off the root of David, the branch of Jessey.  that is even why he sais that no one can enter the king-man of God without HIM.  SO those who dont will never enter heaven, it matters not how religious they seem. another proof that we do not realy know the GOD we are praying coz in revelation it sais: "those so-called JEWS" showing that those who call themselves jews in these days are not realy jews as we all know we, black people, are the real jews as we are the descendents of papa JACOB who was re-named ISREAL meaning "he who struggled with God", that is how we became jews as the holocost painfully proves as hitler's hate for the white jews bears testimony to this, coz when he was asked why he hated these jews when all he was fighting for was to create and esteblish a "perfect white race" he said "how could they take up an identity of an inferrior race" proving that these jews were not real jews but copy-cat of the real jews which hitler hated, blacks.
and, to the point that we all make when we say Selassie could not have been God HIM-self coz he always refered to a "father" in heaven and that he always prayed to HIM, well sadly, to me, that is due to lack of wisdom, the knowledge acquired thru and from HIM coz the proverb says "wisdom is from HIM and with it is understanding and insight" and that "knowldge of the most high IS understanding" meaning, the more u know about the most high the more u will understand God coz they are one and the same thing as it also reveals "first was the word and the word was with God and the word WAS God."  what more do we want.  coz jesus admitted, though not saying blatently that he was he was God, that "he was the WORD, the FAITH, the purest vine and the WAY and the TRUTH" after all he revealed to us we still did not understand coz the 7 seals were not opened for all of us but for those who have faith in the FAITH coz it was too deep to overstand.  as our forefathers during his jusus era when they asked :"he, who is the son of joseph and marry, the ones we know, is calling himself the son of god?"  and they crucified him for that for they believed he was just a man after he admitted to the samarian woman that he was indeed the messiah - what does that name mean?  what was the real meaning of Emmanuel and why was jesus brought to us - coz the father said "there will be no more mediators between you and i; i mo do away with all these prophets and bring you my only son to you..."  and when jesus was revealing to his desciples on where he was going, they asked where he was going, where was this place he was going to that they couldnt go to or reach he said: "i am going to MY-SELF to prepare a place for you" again revealing who he was.  so u see how he answered, so did Selassie coz the only people who called HIM god were the rastas and he said if that was what we believed he couldnt stop or change that coz that was our faith but he would like to believe that he is just a regular man and then goes and gets baptised by rasta priest in a rasta church coz the ancient "orthodox" church is not the same as this one they run now in Ethiopia and agian approves the "nyabhighi order" as the way to conduct and administor God's church, so be wise bread-dreads, read more about the man and u will see.  and if u read upon his life, from childhood to his disapperence u would know that he was not just a "man" even though he said he would "like" to be seen as one.  only an extra-ordinary man can say this, why didnt mohamed or all those so-called great leaders say that?  instead they wanted to be worshiped as the pope does by labeling himself the viqour of christ - can u emagine?
and, we all know that the prophet john and elijah were as god in spirirt - the bible says they were given the power of God but still they were seen as least in the eyes of JAH, so how can one see christ and SELASSIE as those who possesed the charector or power or spirit of GOD when even those who did siad they were lower in rank than he was?  and to answer the trinity q'n - the father the son and the holy spirit - they all have one name as we as and as he comanded that we baptise in the father, the son and the holy spirit's name meaning they were one thing as he also admits in the 4 gospels and through out the bible that "the father is in him and he in the father" - see how important the bible is?  and how important words are?  PEEEACE!!!

Sixthborn,

Greetings, I have to say I'm more confused by your last post than I was by the one preceeding it.  I will look for a reference to the capture of Selassie, but I'm still wondering why His Majesty did not write about it in His autobiography, surely he would have mentioned such an incident.  Furthermore, I couldn't tell if you were saying that Selassie had re-baptized in some sort of Nyabinghi ceremony, but if that is what you were implying then where on earth did you find evidence to base that on.  Selassie was and always will be the supreme defender of the Orthodox faith, a faith which remains and always will remain as ancient and powerful as it always has been.  I'm well aware of the political agendas which surround the Ethiopian Orthodox church, however the faith itself remains untarnished.  Selassie was a great unifier and never put down another man's faith so I can certainly belive that he did not dicourage the Rastafarians, but it is a fact that Selassie comissioned the building of the Trinity cathedral which is in Kingston.  Sixthborn, I'm not trying to challenge your faith, just reasoning.  Selam

The world should know that he is the Almighty, it is prophecised, the prophecy has been fulfilled, open your eyes and look. Haile Selassie from his youth, was a mysterious person who was said to have been feared by priest and other persons working in the palace. His first born name was Ras Tafari which means "head creator", but Tafari alone means, "to be feared" and so he was. The coming of the child was one in a million since the time of Christ, when Christ was born, the planets of the universe aligned themself, and this is a sign of a Great person to be born astronomers say. Their was the worst drought & famine in Ethiopia than ever seen before, days before he was born, Ethiopia purged itself to accept him & now Ethiopia purges itself to accept Jah children, for when we repatriate. Their is a story about Haile Selassie in his youth, his father & mother was astounded by his vast knowledge and wisdom of and from the bible. They brought in priest to talk with him to ask him where he knew all these things from, Haile Selassie knew books that aren't printed in the bible, like the 8th, 9th & 10th books of Moses, the Dead Sea Scrolls, he would know line for line. The priests would ask him questions and he would call them to tell them the answer in their ears and the answers he would give would frighten the priests away, and some would never return to see him. At one time their were two priests talking to Tafari, who had claimed he talks to animals and the wild beasts in the jungles of Ethiopia, One of the priests asked Tafari to draw one of these animals, so Tafari requested for crayons and a piece of paper and began to draw it formed into a dove of bright multi-colors and before the priest could question Tafari about the bird on the page he was dumbfounded when he saw it arise off the paper and fly through the window, the two priests hysterically left the palace and never returned.            

Tafari the Mystical Youth, Give Thanks.

BLESSED ONE LOVE

I know all these things and it's truly astonishing, but what I can't overstand is why would he deny it? Why did he tell InI to worship the Creator and put InI focus on the Lord and Saviour he accepted, Iyesus Kristos? H.I.M. was Christian not so? I'm thiking on the points Sixtborn made, that he never answered questions directly, but at the end of it all, he was Christian [smiley=confused.gif]

Haile Selassie was truly special, he had a conciousness matched by none. My belief...we are all God. As I've seen it put before, man of right is God in flesh and man of wrong is satan in flesh. Haile Selassie was a true person, pure of heart and totally surrounded with love and righteousness. Superbly concious and sets the example as what we should be as humans, and as such, he's worthy to be hailed. He's as close to God as man can ever be and so we should try to be like him.

Blessed

"Haile Selassie was truly special, he had a conciousness matched by none".

i DO NOT think InI need to make up Mythical attributes to Ras Tafari Makonnen just to justify that he was a inspiration to many or try to equate himwith the God-Man attributes of Biblical heroes.NO teacher of the Lawsof Nature or TRUE Rasta person would tell their student that they cannot be llike them, the destinty of womb/man is to become Haile Selassie-Krst-Buddha on earth.just Selassie I defending Truths and Rights, and doing what he thought was right for InI is enuff to Hail him, i DONT have to look to ANY book to find that out, for THAT WOULD BE AGAINST ANCIENT AFRIKAN SCHOOLS OF THOUGHT, coz Everyone could attain the title to be called Haile Selassie if u follow the Laws of Ma'at.

Give thanks for these reasonings. Much raspect has been given in these posts. Daily our focus shifts as we experience Life. If I may re-word the title, Is Selassie I Love ? Is Yesus Kristos Love ? From all the teachings and parables and scripts and bios and words, etc..if this is what Jah Is - "Love", everything ever said, scripted or done in His Name for the sake of humanity points to "Love".
Blessed      

Hello all people of all races

I am new to this site and I just registerd to answer this post. If the bible was brought into Africa by the white men and they used the bible to trick human beings into slavery then why do Rastafarians use the bible to find their roots?

Give thanks for the giving of thanks
Selassie I the 1^th

Now there is alot of things that the fire is about to burn, dark kushites of this time be wise!!

lets begin with the english language, it was derived from 2 pagan langauges Greek & Latin making itself "double pagan", the english language is poison it should be burnt.

Selassie I is not GOD-(DOG)
Kushites and Nubians dont be missled by these words that has no meaning or one word that has 10 different meaning, this is the way of the english language.
I and I praise Selassie I, none before & none after
Burn Jah, Burn Emanuel, Burn God(Invisible concept)

as for the bible and cristianity
a version of the bible sent from europe to Ras tafari in ethiopia was sent back with a message "The oldest bible known to man is in ethiopia and and the peiple of ethiopia need not a version.
there are things found  in the king james version of the bible that may be true as it is, but most of it was twisted to cause the confusion that is today.
there are freemason rituals, words and passwords in this bible.
it is poison it should be burnt.
Selassie I IS NOT jesus there is not even suficient proof that jesus really existed. Dont get caught looking outside of ur self for anything at all, there is only one truth.

Selassie I ^1th"No Government outside the continent of Ehtiopia shall stand, NO NOT ONE"

Greetings
I must stress to the youth to continue to read the Word of Yah and search out [a difficult trod] His Word in the original manuscript. Yes I, much has been translated and confusing but, if one reads in Aramaic[or english tranlation of] the original Word [Mattai for one]in Aramaic, much comes to light. Sight this one confusion. The lineage of Yahshua. If  both Matthew and Luke give the genealogy of Joseph, one thru the lineage of Solomon, the other thru Nathan how can the lines converge in Joseph? How can Joseph claim decent from King David thru both Solomom and Nathan?
A mistranslation of the Aramaic word Gab-ra which can mean Man, Husband or Father.
It is a fact that lineages generally excluded females. Yahshua was the only person in history who had no human father, whose previous generation included only one person. Here Joseph must be sighted as the father of Mary not as generally understood as the husband of Mary. From Abraham to Yahshua as Yah Word is written, there is a straight line.
Blessed Love      

Define "God"...

nyamabla

Yeshua was born of Mary. Since the lineage of women is not recorded this is the confusion. Joseph was also the name of Marys father, this is how the lineage of Abraham-David-Yeshua runs in a straight-line to the King of Kings. Yeshua was born of two parents Mary and Yah [not her husband Joseph], unless this is overstood, the confusion continues.

Blessed love      

If one deals with the chakras which are not the seven seals, one could eventually reach the highest enlightenment and behold you will be in the arms of "the son of the morning light", a slave to Satan. Scholars now sight that Magdalene was not a fallen woman [prostitute] but a true follower and not a "consort" of YSH .

Bless

Ras meaning Head, Tafari meaning Creator.
Alpha Omega.  

So u believe Tafari Makonnen created all things?

I think I am half man and half god. I am a rastafarian. I think I am sellassie I reincarnated. I think I am living the same life as him but in a different way. I turned rasta about 6 years ago. I have dreads now that I have been growing about 6 years and I am lightskin. I am not fully rasta yet because I still eat white meat and sumtimes I trim my facial hair. I was born in nework but I dont consider myself to be american. I consider myself to be african. I am 26 years old. I dont consider my mother or father or the rest of my family to be my family. I consider god (jah) to be my father. I think I have met my soulmate but we are not together. I think I have met the devil's son too. We useto be friends of a friend until he told me he is gay. I think he is king solomon reincarnated. The doctor says that I have a disease that has to do with my spine. Some people think it is serebal pausy. I don't know if I spelled that right. I think it has to do with my lower back area on my right side and also right below my chest on the right side only. I walk on  my toes. I think my condition can be reversed. I useto walk normal until I was 12. That is when my lower back became a problem, then my lower chest when I was about 18 making it even harder for me to walk. I think I went to elementary school with the one I think is the devil's son and also the one I think is my soulmate. Me and him useto fight alot back then. The reason why I dont want to be with the one i think is my soulmate is because both of them started going out. He did it for spite because he liked me and I didn't go with him because I am and never was gay. She was also a friend of the same friend I knew him from. Me and the friend started hanging out and smoking weed together since high school. I got expelled from elementary school. Then I atended catholic school and then got expelled from there too and went back to public school. That is a part of my life story.