Title: black ignorance is killing our culture,race and beliefs Post by: keimhad on April 16, 2006, 06:20:18 AM let me say that my life has changed when i read books and find the truth for myself. People don't believe in God because of what europeans say and what they have control of; therefore we believe in stupidity and force ourselves into there culture doing ungodly things to ourselves as men to our women and childern.
Before slaves were Kings and Queens ruling from west sahara of timbuktu to the banks of the nile rivers. Until islam and romans, greek, french, spanards,portaugese, dutch and other europeans who had anything to do with slavery, and every since that day of hate our race most blacks have been brain washed, mixed with other euros thats why we have light skinned blacks and they look down on us that are dark-skinned and say we are nothing because were to damn dark.People have been taught that black is bad and white is good, black hair and dark-skin is Gods curse, that's why black women have been curupt by the european culture as a result they straighten their hair, lighten their skin with skin products, do porn, marry white men to have lighter childern talk about dark- skinned women and men and because some brothers are uncle toms, and sellouts to euro culture and living the ghetto life calling women bitches which was used by whites first and dropping out of school and using BS excuses talk about how some damn white man keep them down; which is not true at all for those who has common sense and is not brainwashed in this crap, and yet still regardless of all the postive brothers in the world, they still believe that brothers are all dogs. i believe that's BS and that's why till this day my fiancee is japanese because my skin is too dark for a average black woman my afro belief's in black pride and religious beliefs on what God says how a real woman is to be is to hard to swallow. on a deferent subject the word africa to me does not exsits, because it came for the romans and not us, as well as the words egypt, ethopia, sudan,hati, jamacia and other black countries that our ancestors did not name. Ethopia is an insult to the black race! that word came from the greeks meaning "land of the burnt faces" or ethopians meaning "burnt face", so why are blacks still using this word? people in this world should wake up and stop living of white culture, and have some damn idenity. Title: Re: black ignorance is killing our culture,race and beliefs Post by: Jendayi on April 16, 2006, 08:16:36 AM Keimbad,
I totally understand your arguments on how and why you've chosen a Japanese, but i think you're using other peoples experiences as an excuse for your choice. I'm dark skinned also, but i won't date a white man and claim that black men don't want me because it's not true. And also i won't claim that blacks don't believe in G-d anymore, it's just some people choose the wrong path, or at least what i perceive as wrong, and thus leads them to not so convenient situations. Jendayi Title: Re: black ignorance is killing our culture,race and beliefs Post by: mwanaafrika on April 16, 2006, 04:50:13 PM I don't think the question of people believing in God has much to do with our lack of development as a Race. On the contrary,I think the biggest obstacle is mental slavery plus the dependecy syndromme it has brought. Look at the majority of our Afrikan leaders in their suits and luxuly at the expense of a poor tax payer somewhere in a resource rich country with enough water and yet its peolpe are poor, struggle to meet ends daily and maybe die of hunger. HOW DO U EXPLAIN THIS SITUATION ? IS IT THAT OUR PEOPLE DO NOT BELIEVE IN GOD OR THAT THEY DO PORN OR THAT AFRIKA/ETHIOPIA/EGYPT WAS NAMED BY ROMANS & GREEKS OR PEHAPS THAT OUR LEADERS ARE NOT EDUCATED ENOUGH ? IT all comes back to mental slavery, a conspiracy and planned move by the enemy to keep our race down. Its in all different forms, brainwash thru religion and culture, accepting that u're cursed by some god or that one race is superior and another inferior, refering to thyself or ya fellows as niggaz, education, "his story" in place of our true history, using our women to get to us and destroy our homes, divide and rule using our own leaders e.t.c Our peolpe breach their skin and straighten their hair bcoz of mental slavery. Our leaders travel to beg for relief food, "donor aid", aids drugs e.t.c in foreign countries who've trapped us in and want us to be this misery. Crying out loud for help instead of doing something about it, telling the world that they are puppets & educated fools with their knees on their minds, who benefit from this "donor aid". Millions of our brothers and sisters are trapped in this mental slavery net, and no matter how many PHDs one may have as long as he/she has mental slavery they are worth less. Mental slavery is the worst form and far much more than physical slavery, our race moved fromn physical enslavement to mental slavery thru colonialism, emperialism, twisted history and now thru our own leaders. ONE WOULD ASK, HOW DO WE SURVIVE ? I WOULDN'T LIE ABOUT IT, ITS SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST/THE TRUE LIONS & LIONESES. ITS AN EYE FOR AN EYE, TIT FOR TAT, DON'T TURN THE OTHER CHICK BUT REFUSE AND HIT BACK AND LET EM FEEL IT OR U AINT SURVIVING. RACIAL PRIDE IS THE BEGINNING OF THE LONG ROAD OUT OF MENTAL SLAVERY. Nevertheless, one thing is for sure, we're the greatest survivors of all times and thats why we still here soldiering on and surviving. The question we should ask our selves is how long shall we be in this situation, are there no heroes or messiahs among us ? Its definately clear that the enemy will neva let us be but what we should always remeber is that he has no keys and that he now uses a remote control so the future is really in our hands. GET UP, STAND UP, UP U MIGHTY RACE, REDEMPTION IS OUR CALL. Mwanaafrika. Title: Re: black ignorance is killing our culture,race and beliefs Post by: natural blacks on April 16, 2006, 06:20:37 PM i believe that's BS and that's why till this day my fiancee is japanese because my skin is too dark for a average black woman my afro belief's in black pride and religious beliefs on what God says how a real woman is to be is to hard to swallow. it becomes too diffucult for u, and u can't find a black woman who will accept u with all your beliefs (religious beliefs, most of which are very oppressive to women) so u take the easy road out and find a woman outside ur race? and u speak of black consciousness and race pride? yea yea, "black ignorance is killing our race". how many times ahve we heard that? i'll tell u what's killing our race...posts like urs. by this i mean....all talk and no action. for how many more years will we be "realising" that ignorance of self is killing us? now we've realised, let's fix that...lets live pride in our black self. let's not marry japanese women, or white women, let's not process our hair, let's not fool ourselves that christianity isn't a white religion, let's not fool ourselves that the arabs were any less cruel and oppresive to blacks than the white, let's stop fooling ourselves that islam is a black man's religion, let create our own religion, let's stop wearing jeans and jacket's and ties, let's stop being ashamed of voodoo, let's stop being ashamed or yoruba belief, let's stop being ashamed of egyptian beliefs, let's stop eating with knives and forks, let's stop speaking english, speak our own languages, let's go back to afrika, or ethiopia, or abyssinia, or al-kebulan...let's act... RASTAFARI LIVES Title: Re: black ignorance is killing our culture,race and beliefs Post by: melaninmagic on April 16, 2006, 09:33:46 PM I agree with all these post, but natural blacks, I'd ask that you not be tooo frustrated. When the time comes to 'act', believe me... we will ALL know :) I liken this forum to a spiritual oaisis where the weary traveller may sit and enjoy a mental purging and recharge... an avenue where thoughts WILL eventually be consolidated into a final soultion. Until that time, keep the faith.
Title: Re: black ignorance is killing our culture,race and beliefs Post by: QuasiFem on April 16, 2006, 11:09:00 PM First off....I have never nor will ever grasp how dating someone outside of the Black Race is a problem. No one can help who they love and dating someone outside will never make you LESS of a Black Man. However...I can see why including that fact in your post may perturb the reader. Are you dating a Japanese woman because you met her and you fell in love or because you couldn't find a Black woman who could handle your pro-blackness...If so...you're with her for the wrong reasons.
Secondly...No man is his hair. Some of the most concious women I've met process their hair...not because they feed into European beauty standards, but because sometimes processed hair is easier to handle and faster to comb. A man can do many things but the reason and place of his heart when he does it is most important. And you know what you're right. Ignorance is primary problem within our race. No Black person should look down on a brother/sister because they straighten their hair or date someone outside of their races...not unless...Not unless they do it for the wrong reasons. Title: Re: black ignorance is killing our culture,race and beliefs Post by: natural blacks on April 17, 2006, 10:23:41 AM Some of the most concious women I've met process their hair...not because they feed into European beauty standards, but because sometimes processed hair is easier to handle and faster to comb. the ever popular excuse...smaller boobs and a smaller ass are easier to manage as well. as a matter of fact, all black characteristics are "harder to handle" than white characteristics, let's do away with them all. white people have it so easy and on the go, let's be like them. so instead of thinking thru our "difficulties", we become slaves to the thinking of the white man. i am keeping the faith melaninmagic, but it was just that the tone of keimhad's post was so strong and then i scroll down to see him saying he's about to marry a japanese girl because he can't find a black girl who will accept him for who he is. that upsets me, because there he was attacking the "ignorant" within the race, and he's given up on black women, not because he found this japanese girl and genuinely felt for her, but bottomline, because he can't find a black girl fast enough. RASTAFARI LIVES Title: Re: black ignorance is killing our culture,race and beliefs Post by: QuasiFem on April 17, 2006, 03:00:45 PM Whatever you say "natural black". Be it the ever popular excuse or not...it's true for many people. Brothers and Sisters who judge their own because they process their hair, etc. are the real ignorant ones. Stupid beliefs like that will keep our race behind forever. "Instead of Thinking throught our difficulties"...... HAHA. I laugh at that because you know nothing about every black woman's individual situation. Your opinion is extremely selfish as well as pointless. You 2nd point I agree with. You have no idea what theyou are saying. You're making it sound as though every woman with natural hair has does not belive in European beauty standards and has a respect for her heritage. I know a girl like that and this same girl with natural hair and African jewelry once told me that "If there were no mixed people, there would be no beaufiul people." So there. Tell me again how having natural hair makes you a certain way. NO MAN IS THEIR HAIR. If we could just learn to respect individual differences and personal choices. It's the CONTINENT that binds us! We're not all the all the same religion..we don't all have the same skin tone or hair texture. I get tired of hearing those ignorant statments. A black woman who relaxes her hair is still a Black woman.
Title: Re: black ignorance is killing our culture,race and beliefs Post by: QuasiFem on April 17, 2006, 03:04:12 PM Some of the most concious women I've met process their hair...not because they feed into European beauty standards, but because sometimes processed hair is easier to handle and faster to comb. the ever popular excuse...smaller boobs and a smaller ass are easier to manage as well. as a matter of fact, all black characteristics are "harder to handle" than white characteristics, let's do away with them all. white people have it so easy and on the go, let's be like them. so instead of thinking thru our "difficulties", we become slaves to the thinking of the white man. i am keeping the faith melaninmagic, but it was just that the tone of keimhad's post was so strong and then i scroll down to see him saying he's about to marry a japanese girl because he can't find a black girl who will accept him for who he is. that upsets me, because there he was attacking the "ignorant" within the race, and he's given up on black women, not because he found this japanese girl and genuinely felt for her, but bottomline, because he can't find a black girl fast enough. RASTAFARI LIVES Slaves to the thinking of the white man...... You should really think of what you are saying. "all black characteristics are "harder to handle" than white characteristic". I do detect the sarcastic tone. But was that really necessary? You're just pushing our sisters away. All these opinions do is push them away. Title: Re: black ignorance is killing our culture,race and beliefs Post by: natural blacks on April 17, 2006, 05:33:00 PM these arguements go nowhere. bredrin...u hold ur talk, i hold my talk. love and blessings.
1 question tho, would u refer to michael jackson as a black man? RASTAFARI LIVES! Title: Re: black ignorance is killing our culture,race and beliefs Post by: keimhad on April 18, 2006, 06:07:36 AM don't get it twisted whoen i say i have japanese girl because of that, i love her because she's right for me, i'm not a damn sell out for that, if that the case our black ancestor were also becuase of interracial marriage for the most part, we have light skinned people, puerto ricans, afor cubans, brazilizan, dominicans, blacks with arab desent, blacks with native american desent and light skinned people, and yes most blacks are brain wash to thing light skin is better than dark skin and light people have good hair and dark skinned blacks have nappy hair and is not as pretty as most light skinned people and can't ha
Title: Re: black ignorance is killing our culture,race and beliefs Post by: mwanaafrika on April 18, 2006, 11:00:33 AM 1 question tho, would u refer to michael jackson as a black man? Micheal Jackson is Black and will never ever be white. His problem is a SERIOUS CASE MENTAL SLAVERY. He is DEFINATELY ashamed to be AFRIKAN physical features/appearance and thus straightened his nose, burn his hair and maybe breach his skin, Doing all this to look like a white man, which he still aint. Look at "his children", this man really hates himself and dreams/wish he was white. WHAT A DISGRACE TO THE AFRO RACE. Keep it Afrikan. Mwanaafrika. AFRO MAN FOR LIFE & I LOVE IT. Title: Re: black ignorance is killing our culture,race and beliefs Post by: gnata on April 18, 2006, 11:45:02 AM Hi , this is my first talk here , and i already enjoy it .
I totally agree with Natural Blacks , i absolutly believe that we ,as black ,should think about the kind of people we want to be . We as blacks , are the ones to have no spécific religion to our own , we are the ones who hate our beauty characteristics ( big lips , curved hairs, specific nose ect...) our women think that she must have a specific complexion to be admired or love by men , when we see Beyoncé or halle berry ect...on TV , we ( Blacks ) think that these complexions or type of beauty is Black while it's absolutly false , all over we see blacks who are almost like caucasian and we think it's the way we should look ! we rarely see "so called" dark skin sister or brother on TV ( because we have been told that dark skin is ugly ) , most of the medias are kind of affraid to show them , and instead of loving our specific characteristic of beauty , some people here ( like QuasiFem) think that it is hard to be like that , it seems like " all black characteristics are "harder to handle" than white characteristic or Indian Characteristic or Asian characteristic "....What a pity ! Who the hell told us that we are not beautifull with our natural hair ? who told us that our nose is ugly because it's too wide ? , who told us that we are beautifull just when we almost look like caucasian ? we got to stop that madness ! .We gonna stop thinking or seeing ourselves through whites or other races ? We are different and we got to take and deal with that . I go wild when i see a sister with an Afro or some breads , it is so beautifull ! Personnally , i love my wide nose , because it helps me when i'am doing sport ( i don't need to put sthng on my nose ...) , i love my dark skin because it is beautifull ( and i take care of it ) , i love my hair because i can bread , i know i'am beautifull because i have the physical characteric of my glory race ...and so far when it comes to physical abilities , we blacks are still the best ! Nota : Most of the hate we have against ourselves , come from racist systems and Slavery , and i can understand that after 500 years of hate , it is difficult to change certain looks or refexions on us , specially in our mind , but we can over come these plights , we must over come them otherwise we will be condemned to hate ourselves for ever ! Title: Re: black ignorance is killing our culture,race and beliefs Post by: Jendayi on April 18, 2006, 02:18:12 PM I partly agree with Natural Blacks on the excuses we make. I used to process my hair, and i used the same excuses - It's easier to manage or it gives me quicker access to jobs- these are all true, but they're not the real reason black women process their hair. Face it.....we do it cause it feels soft (whatever you call it)...that thought lies to the core of the different reasons/excuses for using chemicals. Ask yourselves how many times you've heard someone talk about nappy hair. And it's always in a negative conotation, as if to say other types of hair are good and nappy is bad. I'm very pleased that over the past few years nappy has come to have a powerful black pride meaning.
Keimhad, You may defend yourself now, but the mere fact that you mentioned it (being with a Japanese) and used black women (or at least those you came across) as the reason you are with your lady, said more than what you actually meant of was feeling. You're allowed to date whosoever you want (we all are entitled to that). I'm still trying to figure out the link of black women not being 'down' with what you believe in and your lady. 1 +1 = 2 in my book, right now yours make 3. This reminds me of women that say men are 'dogs', i always say, if you LOOK for a man in a trashcan, chances are he'll be a stray dog looking for some food. Sometimes we need to reevaluate the mate we choose before passing judgements. Title: Re: black ignorance is killing our culture,race and beliefs Post by: mwanaafrika on April 20, 2006, 02:25:41 PM I partly agree with Natural Blacks on the excuses we make. I used to process my hair, and i used the same excuses - It's easier to manage or it gives me quicker access to jobs- these are all true, but they're not the real reason black women process their hair. Face it.....we do it cause it feels soft (whatever you call it)...that thought lies to the core of the different reasons/excuses for using chemicals. Ask yourselves how many times you've heard someone talk about nappy hair. And it's always in a negative conotation, as if to say other types of hair are good and nappy is bad. I'm very pleased that over the past few years nappy has come to have a powerful black pride meaning. Tell it as it is Man. First of all may i congratulate you for managing to stop processing your naturally beautifull hair. Its an achievement and i'am encourage you to help many people out there. And also thank you for a well explained reply, for me that has answered the question and hope it has/will to many. Keimhad, You may defend yourself now, but the mere fact that you mentioned it (being with a Japanese) and used black women (or at least those you came across) as the reason you are with your lady, said more than what you actually meant of was feeling. You're allowed to date whosoever you want (we all are entitled to that). I'm still trying to figure out the link of black women not being 'down' with what you believe in and your lady. 1 +1 = 2 in my book, right now yours make 3. This reminds me of women that say men are 'dogs', i always say, if you LOOK for a man in a trashcan, chances are he'll be a stray dog looking for some food. Sometimes we need to reevaluate the mate we choose before passing judgements. Well explained point again, man, but i think this issue will only be cleared by Keimhad-the Geisha man himself. I coudn't comment on that issue earlier as i was trying to understand his point but it still doesnt make sense. That should not be a reason for him to date jap girl and if he so claim to have black pride he should only date Afrikan women. Talking about black pride, without actually putting it in practice is no pride at all. Keep it Afrikan. Aluta kontinua ! ! ! Mwanaafrika Title: Re: black ignorance is killing our culture,race and beliefs Post by: mwanaafrika on April 20, 2006, 02:34:56 PM I don't think the question of people believing in God has much to do with our lack of development as a Race. Sorry people. The sentence has an error. it suppossed to read as follows. I DONT THINK THE QUESTION OF PEOPLE BELIEVING IN GOD HAS ANYTHING MUCH TO DO WITH OUR LACK OF DEVELOPPMENT AS A RACE. Mwanaafrika. Title: Re: black ignorance is killing our culture,race and beliefs Post by: KADEKN on April 28, 2006, 11:21:44 PM THE ISSUE OF THIS BROTHER MAKING PRO BLACK STATEMENTS AND THEN TURNING AROUND AND SAYING THAT HIS LADY IS JAPANESE IS CONTRADICTING. YOU TALK ABOUT BLACK IGNORANCE, BUT YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE HOW THIS ACTION IN ITSELF IS PART OF THE SELF DEMIZING THAT IS TAKING PLACE IN OUR RACE ON A WHOLE. WHY DON'T YOU HELP THE CAUSE BY PROCREATING WITH AN AFRICAN SISTA HAVING AN 100 PERCENT NATURAL AFRICAN CHILD WITH A STRONG SENSE OF SELF AND RACIAL PRIDE. PEACE.
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