Green light for gay marriages

[Nazarite]

[shadow=red,left,300]NAZARITE, you mentioned a specific excerpt from Leviticus... I encourage you to present the entire passage regarding these abominations. I'm sure you've read it all & are aware that it also included farming a certain way an abomination. Pointing that out to say, that the books of the Holy Bible were written to a certain people of a certain time. Had they cross-planted (not a "real" term) they would have killed themselves. Today that has nothing to do with us. It is completely obsolete in our day & time. I don't govern my life by excerpts of scripture, but the Spirit of Jah that lives within me... I can't even honestly say that the text I read is full proof (rather as I read it I pray for HIS spirit to guide me) for there is only one thing that assures me what is right & wrong, true & untrue: THE I N I. [/shadow]

use this logic for a minute,ceratin plants have to use certain seeds for it to grow,if u get married by a christian priest,shouldnt u go by the rules of this book?even in the New testament,u dont hear je-sus talking about the union of samesex,but of man & wombman.if gays get married by a christian priest,FOLLOW THE RULES FROMWHENCE IT CAME.i OVERstand that this is the card u were dealt in this life and ur playing with it,but no matter how "gay' u r,u have the power to change urself.if u think this is the right way for u to live,fine,but i HUMBLY ask,what does NATURE (which is the most PERFECT example of Womb/man)teach u?this i dont think anyone could doubt.

[Joshua Liontree]

Really, though, Nazarite, you can boil down all of Jesus' teachings to two commands or requests:  Love me and love each other.  If two men love each other, then that is that.  And you, being a good Christian, should love them too.

Raspectfully,

Joshua Liontree

[iyah360]

IYAH, you shared your thoughts of gay orientation as a "new thing to try"... Not trying to change your views, just offering a diff way to look at things: Had I never enjoyed the comfort of running water, I would not understand the need for it. You have not & are not gay, therefore your opinion of a person's needs or wants for it are completely biased. Not saying you should become gay to better understand or that you should not think the way you do, simply that you should consider your lack of knowledge of a certain path before forming such a strong condemnation or assumption of those that walk it.

This same argument can be used to justify anything. Most people in the West don't need 75% percent of the things they think they NEED to survive, they have been indoctrinated by the culture of convenience and materialistic obsession to believe they need it in order to survive. We are socially conditioned creatures - when there are new variables added to the mix, this influences the behaviors and need/wants of the individuals. for example, i know many who all of a sudden find they can't live w/out the convenience of a cell phone. this was not an innate urge one had - it was a function of a theater created by advertisement and corporate hegemony - needs and situations that were not thought about previously that all of a sudden rendered the land line as too archaic.

this is how the psychology of the west works, they rule us through superior psychology - it is not hard to introduce a new theme, issue, product to the mass market and have it be the next huge thing.

[Poetic_Princess]

Oh, please ! The whole idea of humans' beings marrying animals is baffling and utterly ridiculous. You total disrespect for people's freedom and disdain of other people that's "different" from the rest is immature and un-African. Grow up! It is ought to the people to decide their sexual preferences, not the leaders. This dictatorial attitude of the majority of the world populate must be remedied, in order for us all to develop unity and balance in this planet. We have more important issues like racist social and economic systems, police violence, hunger, drugs, and disease than what people do in their bedrooms

The part which was mentioned about persons being married to animals isn't something that i created or something out a fairy tale, it was a statement made by a gentleman on the news when this whole legalizing of gay marriages arose and I choose to state it cause anything is possible no matter how ridiculous it may seem to others.
And I dont think I disrespected no one in no way by just stating my views and I apologize if others think so but as  I stated at the beginning of my post this is just my VIEWS.
and i do agree they are other important issues.

Bless

[SELAM]

Greetings In The Name of The Most High,

Interesting points made by all...

BANTU, I am in no way blaming my wrong or right doings on any force. Please forgive me if that's what it sounds like. Every decision I make is mine. I am not saying I have no control over what I chose to do, what I am saying is that I have always had a desire to love one sex over the other. I made the decision to follow that desire. I made the decision to also pray about it bcuz so many say it's wrong & at the end of MY day & the end of MY prayers, the I N I was at peace with MY decision. Who am I to blame my petty decsions on JAH, for HE has far more important things to dwell upon. I may interpret HIS voice wrong & I may be in wrong. I'm not saying I'm not. Simply saying that I am at peace with my decsion & I feel like JAH is as well.

NAZARITE, I am not a Christian & do not wish to ever enter their doctorine of marriage. Neither do I chose to believe that the KING JAMES VERSION of any Holy writing is the final authority. Who knows what jesus christ said... we only know what he said according to KING JAMES. Any source of doctorine can be tainted once it gets to our hands years later. Which is why I emphasize letting JAH guide my eyes as I read.

Also, I am not saying that I can't change. JAH has given me the power to overcome all things certainly a simple desire can be conquered. As far as what nature teaches us... I honestly have no idea why my way of life is so contradictory of nature. I often wonder why I am so opposite & sometimes wish it was easier to be like everyone else & like "nature" intended (as most would say). I am in search of that answer & I know the fact you speak of, but I have yet to find my truth in it.

Peace

[Bantu_Kelani]

The part which was mentioned about persons being married to animals isn't something that i created or something out a fairy tale, it was a statement made by a gentleman on the news when this whole legalizing of gay marriages arose and I choose to state it cause anything is possible no matter how ridiculous it may seem to others.
And I dont think I disrespected no one in no way by just stating my views and I apologize if others think so but as  I stated at the beginning of my post this is just my VIEWS.
and i do agree they are other important issues.

Bless

There is absolutely no evidence that is worth looking at in the scientific research annals suggesting that homosexuals can be turned into bestiality fans! Far more heterosexuals adults practice bestiality, child pornography and incest. Thus, your arguments are weak and suggest hypocritical arguments on behalf of a deviant life-style. Should adults be free to make their own decisions about sex and marriage when these decisions have no direct impact on you and others? This is what you need to be asking yourself. It's time for the Black/Africans and others that hide behind the mask of religion and conservative concepts such as righteousness, family values and patriotism to accept and give homosexuals and lesbians the right to be themselves. It is selfish to deny others their rights with petty reasons, indeed, with no reason at all. IMO, when you don't respect another's person right to have a different lifestyle, belief or philosophy, you can't have a deep respect for life in general.

B.K

[luminous_heart]

"Many people are fearful of homosexuality out of some sense of misplaced national pride or a mistaken effort to safe guard the national morality. Politicians, statisticians, academics, and especially the medical community have established themselves as world-class liars and because they lie, other people practice the extreme denial of homosexuality."

"The Divine give us inclination or tendency that are germane because it unable us to follow the experimental path that encourage the growth of wisdom within us. Every single person on this planet must live according to his or her own conscience to master his or her spirit."

It would do all of us to contemplate what Bantu_Kelani has said ...

[Kerry11]

   I have to admit how humerous I think it is when people feel so strongly against gay marriage and homosexuality altogether.  I am not gay and never will be, but who am I to judge those who are.  I think it's hularious that this topic is even discussed within our politics today and that bills must be passed in order for gays to be legaly married.  If someone is gay, how does that affect my life?  It doesn't at all.  Why should my opinion (vote) count towards someone's life and happiness?  The fact that two people are gay and want to take their relationship to the next level doesn't impact my life or cause a problem for me in any way so why are we the one's to decide if they should be able to be married or not.
 I've heard many people complain that if homosexuals are able to get married that they have to accept their way of life.  That is the biggest load of crap I have ever heard.  Homosexuals already have to accept people that disagree with their lifestyle, let alone people who are trying to run it.  The Charter of Rights and Freedoms states that everyone is equal so why are we even debating on this issue?  If you can't handle seeing displays of homosexuality, then don't look at it.  
   For those religious people, that say God is against it, you should know more than anybody that God loves everyone, good or bad.  He does not judge so why are you?
   I understand the fact that some will never agree with this topic, and thats ok, but your opinion should be just that.  Keep it to yourself and let everyone have their own.  Your opinions should not be able to pass laws that don't relate to your lives or that affect everyone else's accept your own.  
When two people love each other, there is no right and wrong.
 I am not for gay marriage and i'm not against it either.  To tell you the truth I really don't care what other people are doing with their own lives, it's pretty much a waste of time to become so wrapped up in the whole matter.  I 've got more important things to worry about in my own life.

[jemba]

Hotep sisters and brothers

There is two types of homosexuals one of them is people who practice homosexuality for the esoteric and paganism reasons, the other type are people who practice homosexuality for pleasure. In the laws of the universe negative and positive energies must meet to create life if you go against creation you are severely disciplined. The universe could not have been created without negative and positive energies as poetic princess stated. If a person believes in life after death or reincarnation then they would not practice homosexuality, he or she will also call upon negative forces beyond the flesh realm if they go against the laws of creation. Women who practice body building or do allot of things that was meant for the male to do intentionally then in the after life her feminine soul will be reincarnated into a human male’s body and exactly the same for the male.
Then when your born you seek not your opposite sex to form a relationship, these things have happened even in ancient afrika the advice from the priest or elders of that society to such a persons, would be to live a life of celibacy and to dedicate your life to priesthood until the appointed time of your soul to depart.
The person can also live as nature commands her body or his body to live but this requires discipline and that’s an emotion humans have almost lost totally.
Where not on this earth because we are perfect creatures where here to repay karma until we no longer have karma to repay we will keep on coming back till the day of judgement.