Africa Speaks Reasoning Forum

I have trouble some with the idea of white rastas.  do you think there can be true white rastas? 

I have a problem with most of them myself, but I believe there CAN be true white rastas yes, but they'd have to be submitting themselves to black consciousness; how many white people are truly ready to do that?

many white people want to have the look of Rastafari and wan fe smoke herbs, but i would say that very few actually want to be black concious. ya know?  Most of them don't really know their own history.  I guess I'll change my question to " what is a white persons role in Rastafari be?  " Should they have as much a role in the Rasta movement as black people?  You can't really have a white person leading Rastafari, there has to be a black voice, for a black movement.  I think , ya know,  if you look at a lot of Reggae shows, and a lot of things that should be primarally for people of colour,   you see mostly white people involved in them.  I know of some very sprituall white people, some all dreaded up and everything.  I just can't help judge them when I see them, but I will try to get to know them, they way I want people to try and get to know me.

True Rasta knows no color..its about the unity and livity amongst Rasta people..I met a Rasta woman the other day (caucasion) and the vibes I got from her was so pure and radiant...some rastas (black) don't give off that vibes..so what is important the color of your skin or the merit of your heart.

To all that questions,

I think most people haven't yet realised that rasta has developed and come a long way. It is the fastest growing "religion" in the world, and that's excluding people with just locks (rascals). It shouldn't be suprising that people of other "races" would be interested in the rasta's way of living or ideology. I've met from Russian to even Chinese rastas. And ofcourse there are some white rascals that just have locks and call out Selasse, BUT so do many blacks. As far as the reggae concerts having a lot of whites, bredrin music has no color boundaries at all. ONe thing i do agree on is that everyone, BLACK AND WHITE should know about the black consciousness and struggle.

Leggo of dat babylonian mentality,

Jendayi

Peace Jendayi

I-man overstand where your commin from.  Rastafari is for everyone, but I think those who aren't black or  non-white miss the whole concept of Jah being black.  or if they don't miss it they lessen the importance of it.  I-man appreaciate your reasoning.

bless

Ras Kana

In my opinion, no, whites cannot be Rasta, but people classified as "white" can align themselves to those concepts of Rastafari which are universal (natural livity, equal rights and justice for all, etc) and be better people for it, and also possibly allies in the war against babylon. (I say POSSIBLY allies, cos really other than my blood family, I only know ONE white person who I know for a fact (from experience) would be ready to "throw down" longside me when it comes down to it.)
My dad is "white" (welsh), he has reasoned with many Rastas not just his son. He agrees with much of what they say but that doesn't mean he would ever consider himself "Rasta".
Another twist to the question: can middle-class and upper-class people (Black people) be true Rastas? If so, do you think they have to have contact with the ghetto first and learn from ghetto people before they can be considered "true Rastas"?

naw
they don't havfa' be from the ghetto to be rasta.  i think they may have a tougher time seein' they poverty struggle and all.  but yea, for sho' there can be middle-class/ uper-class rastas. 

what do you think

kana

I'm upper-middle class when it comes to Guyana, and lower-working class when it comes to UK and USA, so those categories are relative anyway.
On the African-Guyanese (and a pinch of Carib) side of my family, there are people who grew up "middle class", and "straight-up ghetto", and on the borderline between the two.
On the Celtic-Welsh side, it's straight working class people, but "white" though, so with far more privilege than "upper middle class" Black and brown people of Guyana. (Although the Welsh been through they own ish... not nearly as bad as the African though).
So you could say I straddle a lot of things, but I know I always got more wisdom from Black people than white. And I always got more wisdom from "ghetto" people than from "middle to upper class" people.

the problem is with bob marley,which he was fraud,to begin with,with that one love thang smoking ganja,
when rastafarism was about being revolutionary,white rastas heavily subscribe to one love,and dope smoking
and they will neva submerge in to blackconsciousness,because they are not ready to un learn their racist behaviour,white people can still cut their locs and geta job in korporate amerika and korporate world and even if some of us,cut our locs we are still blacks no matter white rastas are part of the new age movement,they do everything because it is fashionable,they get into voudoun because it is fashionable and part of new age movement,they get into rastafarism because it is part of the new age movement, it has become like the falungong the chinese movement, new age,most supproter of the dhallai lama,dont know,he was working with the CIA, and thats the new age movement for yall, ands white hippies [smiley=2thumbsup.gif] [smiley=beam.gif]

 >:(  whites,rheziku aryans,indo europeans,non melanated peoples,will be consumed by fire and those among
of our own who associates with dem will be burnt in the progress,thats the natural order,cana lion and gazelle live together,cana mouse anda cat live together, cana whale and fish live together,we are the hue manis,and as far as white rastas,they still will use their white skin privellege to get in to college,universities
airports,think about it! >:(

YO!!!
WATCH IT when you dissing the Hon. Robert Nesta Marley, man. You should really know whereof you speak. Bob Marley is not a "problem", Bob Marley is a transmitter of an eternal African irit and to many of we in the carry beyond (and elsewhere) when you dis Bob Marley, is like you personally dissing we. Peter is we, Bob is we, Jacob Killa Milla is we, Hugh Mundell is we, Prince Far I is we, Haile I Selassie I JAH RASTAFARI liveth and reigneth in IanIanI.
Dready got a job to do, and he's got to fulfill that mission
To see his hurt, will be their greatest ambition
But we will survive, in this world of competition
Cos no matta what they do, knotty keep on coming through
And no matta what they say, knotty be deh anyway
So ride knotty ride...
All and all you see a gwaan,
is to fight against the rastaman
and so they build their world in great confusion,
to force on us the devil's illusion
but the stone that the builder refuse
shall be the head cornerstone
and no matter what game they play, we got something they could never take away
we got something they could never take away...
and it's the fiya, the fiya
that's burning down everything
feel the fiya, fiya, only the birds have their wings....
no time to be deceived
[sisters and] brothers you should know, and not believe
JAH say this judgemant day could never be with wata,
 no wata can put out this fiya, this fiya...
oh ride knotty ride...
Now the fire's out of control,
panic in the city, wicked weeping for their gold
Everywhere, the fiya is burning,
Destroying and melting their gold
destroying and wasting their souls...
Oh ride knotty ride...
Now the people gather on the beach, and the "leaders" try to make a speech
But de dread again tell dem that it's too late, fiya is burning, man pull your own weight...
Oh ride knotty ride
Riding through the storm
Riding through the calm
(go deh, go deh)
Oh ride knotty ride.
-the Hon. Robert Nesta Marley
Afrikanrebel06, is you from the favelas irmao, if so, just know that Bob represents the favelas of Jamaica and the carry beyond and beyond, and those REAL REVOLUTIONARIES who PERSONALLY KNOW man like Bob Marley (there's a bredren on Rastafari Speaks who knew Bob from Bob was in his early teens) might very well take GREAT OFFENSE at such casual, misinformed and disrespectful mention of the man.
If you look through the posts of Baba Ras Marcus on Rastafari Speaks, you will find an explanation of what is the phrase "One Black Love/ One Love" and what it mean and where it come from.
PS I got your other message, I'll send ya the awol cd in a week or so.

 truly gman, i think the wailers as one friend of mine told me here in toronto,built marley, peter tosh was more conscious than bob marley,peter tosh said" mo matter where you from,if you are blackman,you are an afrikan" secondly,i have seena documentary,with bob marley,holding hands with both parties,whereas peter tosh was more hard core,than bob marley,bob marley wasa product of chris blackwell,it was funny watch ythis documentary,because DAVID HINES,from steel pulse,one of the bands that i like never mentioned about PETER TOSH.
the wailers gave him more prominence and taught him,i have talked to people that knew both and walked with both. think why bob marley is more commercialized than peter tosh and why he appeals for white hippies, and why Peter tosh,didnt get much publicity as bob marley did,this is powerful line right here
" no matter where you come from,if you are blackman,you are an afrikan"
do you really thinkgman,that white rastas and white people alike want to hear that,come on now,brother,you know,people want music that says" we are the world,so let start giving" they dont want music that promotes cutlural pride,the thing i see,is that bob marley appeals for all white hippies and peter tosh to the most conscious afrikan people,to have black consciousness,we dont necessarily need to be rastas,like peter tosh said" no matter where you from,if you area blackman,you are an afrikan" [smiley=2thumbsup.gif]

Funny how Bob Marley is so popular in places like Trenchtown, Jamaica and Buxton, Guyana. Places where white hippies tend to be notably absent.
Bob Marley wasn't no "fraud". That is a disrespect to one of our great freedom fighters who is in the realm of the ancestors now.
I suggest you read the interview that Mumia Abu-Jamal did with Bob Marley (before Mumia's frame up and incarceration). Google it.

PS I have lived in areas with high white hippy populations, and Peter Tosh (RRRRRRRRRRRRRASPEK!!!) was certainly popular amongst them. "LegalIIIIIIIIIIIZe it..." they'll sing along with that every time. Hell, they'll sing along to "I'm an African", word for word (LOF'inL).
Personally, though, while I don't consider every single person who is categorized as a "white hippy" to be the devil incarnate, or a member of an extraterrestrial race, my personal musical tastes are not dictated  by what white hippies may find popular or unpopular, at any given time.
I just like GREAT MUSIC. And what I like even better is GREAT MUSIC with a GREAT MESSAGE. And Peter Tosh, Hugh Mundell, Bob Marley, Prince Far I, Puma Jones, Roland Alphonso, Desmond Dekker and a whole heap ah people who are no longer here physically with us... certainly provided us with both ah those... for which I thankh ALLA DEM.
PS "Bob Marley was a creation of chris blackwell"... PLEASE APOLOGISE FOR THIS STATEMENT ASAP. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE.

"a product of chris blackwell" was what you actually said. I myself must now apologize for misquoting you.
However I do suggest that you first, find out just a "LICKLE" more of what Bob Marley IS [not was] about, and second, apologize for saying that bull ca ca.
Blessed

ok gman,we can agree to disagree,the fact is when you go and compete fora job when white hippies cut their locs they can still get in where the door is shut on you.

number two brother,why people dont ackowledge that the wailers built bob marley and that chris blackwell,
is the man that owns island records,irish guy,another question gman,lotta of rasta here in toronto and else where sings about babylon dis and babylon dat,me myself,i want to get out of this modern day rome,when shit hits the fan,it probably will,because,csis is now pig backing the amerikkkans,so stead of singing what about making ita reality,why not work in repatritation to the motherland,stead of singing your lungs out,put words into actions,what ya think [smiley=2thumbsup.gif]

Certainly agree with you about white hippies... I'm not trying to defend white hippies... although I don't think everyone classified as a white hippy is totally evil.
Bob was a PART of the Wailers, the Waillers was Peter, Bob, Bunny (who were all related by blood or marriage- Peter and Bunny were cousins or something like that, and Bunny's dad used to deal with Bob's mum). There was also a bredren named "Vision" Walker who filled in for Bob when Bob went to the States to work for a year, before later emigrating himself.
Peter had a bit more musical knowledge than Bob or Bunny as far as playing instruments, he was the one who taught Bob to play guitar.
Blackwell didn't come into the picture until the early 70s, by which time the Wailers had existed for over a decade and piled up hits pon top of hits in the Jamaican charts (for which none of them got paid fairly). Blackwell, who comes from one of the "ruling families" of Jamaica, saw they were a "hot property", and decided to invest in them. He also instigated division within the ranks in typical backra fashion. Although Joe Higgs (early musical mentor of the Wailers) had already appointed Bob as the "leader", that had more to do with his disciplinarian approach to rehearsals than with an idea of Bob as the centrepiece and Bunny and Peter as window dressing. Joe Higgs noticed that Bob would be very quick to get annoyed if everything wasn't absolutely right at a rehearsal, so he was put in charge of running rehearsals. He wasn't declared the leader per se of the band (as in Bob Marley AND the Wailers) until Bunny and Peter left the band (although Blackwell's attitude probably helped drive them out.) It seems that the main reason for Peter and Bunny leaving the Wailers was over the touring; they were touring in some very rough conditions and getting stranded in horrible small English towns in the middle of winter with no money, and Peter had enough of that, and Bunny never liked to travel by plane anyway. Bob decided to stick to it. To my knowledge it was after Peter and Bunny left the Wailers that Blackwell re-christened the band as Bob Marley and the Wailers; before that it was just the Wailers, although nowadays Island re-released "Catch a Fire" as by Bob Marley and the Wailers.
The fact that Bob was light skinned and "mixed race" no doubt had something to do with his massive surge in international popularity compared to Peter and Bunny. But he was never a "fraud" and he was never 'friends' with Chris Blackwell, Blackwell saw Bob as someone who could make him some money, and Bob saw Blackwell as someone who could assist him in getting the music out to the masses, until such time as Bob could control his own ting. (Which he was getting ready to do before he passed forward; one of the things Bob said was that he really wanted to tour Africa, but not with no white record company making money off it, he said that would seem like slavery all over again, so he wanted to wait to tour Africa until he fully controlled Tuff Gong and could built it to a level where he wouldn't need Island's backing.)
Also not being from Jamaica and perhaps not knowing about the extent of the war that was going on in the 70s at election time, you might not overstand the significance or intended message conveyed by Bob getting Manley and Seaga to shake hands on stage (the only time the two bitter rivals had ever shook hands in public). As he later explained, he was tryina say to all the ghetto youths busy killing one another over these two white/near-white guys, "Look... they shaking hands now... so whatchu killing one another for?" He also is reputed to have said later "I should have killed them both when I had the chance" (although he was obviously swung more towards Manley's camp than C.I.A.ga's, Bob nor none of the Wailers had any great respect for politicians.)
"We nuh have no friends, inna high society..."

Hello,
I have overviewed briefly whats going on these foras. I is white skin man from germany. I have spent time in jamaica in my teens, later i visited ethiopia. i got involved with reggae and above all with the german scene, for in germany i spent most of my time.
most of the people who go to dancehall here just follow something they don't know, some of them because it 's fashionable or/and the like the reggae mood.

let yu all know that it is a small minority in germany who are really into reggae.
though its growing i would say. let me tell you that rascism is there, not only in the east also in the west. i have seen it and i experience that so its true, that old white rascism against black skin. one day i went to a normal market with a dark skinned girl and the vendours screwed up their faces almost angrily very much because she was brown. most white people deny the fact that most german people are more or less instinctively rascist. but its reality.

when i was in jamaice i was taught in black supremacy. one day i reasoned with a bingi having smoked a lot of herb. he told me that white people were made when a woman may be a black woman slept with a dog. i was told black peoples skin is thicker than white skin and stronger and renews itself while white skin is not so.
another rasta told me in some kingston zink fence yard, that all races come thru black and that white  cannot produce black. the reasoning goes so the black is the horse and white is the mule, because the mule cannot bring horse, but the horse bring mule. so they look at nature to see the things him tell me.
they play certain games with me, i was confused more time on the island i have been only 15 years and some old.
one deejay said on some song that death war to all caucasian guy, and a couple of other things. i thought they were right because i saw no white people with love and dat vibe which i thought to come from africa. i identified very much with black. i was a small youth who felt that i grow up amongst black.
anyway i stick to what garvey said about klukluxclan. dem better than white hypocrites pretending to love reggae but fighting instinctively anytime when the supreme being take onto itself flesh. i have seen that more time.
de whole a dem are like that and waan send me into psychiatric hospital because of schizophrenia.
anway den, i end up as white trash ina dis land. and no black no white save me ina dis. i dont give a damn if white can be rasta or not.
i is not going to be white slave without an own mind like some soundsystem suckaz for no black artists.
i read a lot about onu culture, study all ethiopian matters and always trying to hold a vibe. but in the meantime i am accepted no where, i have a lived a long time in germany now, anyway i don t want to disrespect the forum.
just keep de fire burnin, de higher one no care if i still listen to reggae when judgement increase.

I'm from Central America, from Costa Rica actually.  I am a white latino, My father is indigenous Salvadorean and my mother is European but I dont see that as a problem.  I truly belive that being a Rasta has nothin to do with the complexion of your skin.  I know for a fact that JAH created ONE man Adam and ONE wombman Eve who had within them the genes to give birth to all the races upon the face of the earth.  I believe that God's chosen people (Israel) are what we know as Afrikans or black people, having black skin symbolizes holiness. Father Abraham who JAH made a covenant with was a Black man, Jacob who JAH made a promise to that he would be the father of millions was also a black man.  God chose black people to carry the message of salvation to the world. Afrikans are the real Hebrews, who have endured opression since biblical times.  I unlike most white people know that I am not and can never be of dark complexion, JAH made me how the way I am.  But JAH isn't intrested in my body, he cares for my heart and spirit, for when I grow old and die  my body will go back to where EVERYONE came from, the earth.

I dont like the talk about racial superiority because the only one who has the right to be called superior over anyone is Haile Selassie I rightful King and Lord of this earth.  All humans are equal, if you do not sympathize with a white brother becoming a Rasta then you are not living what your preaching and that in my book is being a hypocrite.  Rasta is about LOVE towards one  another, Rasta is about finding JAH through his wonderful creation, rasta protects the weak and gives ligth and guidance to the one living in anguish and darkness.  JAH warns those who serves a stone in someone's path towards righteousness and salvation.  If Rasta is the way then how can you deviate some one from the truth, If you disaprove of a white, asian, indian, latin, eskimo etc... rasta what you are really against is unity, love and peace in the world.

We must not just wish blessings upon our own race, nation or creed, we have to ask for JAH to bless everyone, all the nations.  My parents were missonaries and I always grew up readin the bible and finding the truth fro my self and that what being a rasta is really about.  You smoke JAH's holy herb and read his holy scriptures to find the truth that Babylon has been trying to Hide for over 2 milleniums. We're all Rastas because JAH made us all, is just that most of world is lost and confused. Get in touch with your rasta within and show the world the light and the truth.

well asher u are contaminated with the european blood of the rheziku aryans,krakkkazoids,most of the krakkkzoid type get into reggae and rastafarism because the new age movement like most whote hippies do,
who built the high temples in mexico,and who built machu pichu was us,bantu people,the originators,the hue manis,krakkkazoids came from the caves and they are savages by nature,the celts,the scotts,the slavs,the danes,they raped their women and after killed them,europeans are the ones who created heathanism ,we the ebonite people/afrikan peoples have the oldest DNA on the planet [smiley=2thumbsup.gif]

lol AkReb
how old are you?

I am a bit confused, do Rastas not try to be closer to Jah? Don't Rastas preach about the beauty of Jah's Love, and the falling of downpressors.  So y would Rasta then divide themselves by their color.  It is a great blessing to watch a man, and not see his complexion, but the fire of Jah within.

Yes I, greetings in tha name of the everliving I-ncient King Of I-ration . . . Emperor Haile Selassie I, JAH Ras TafarI Makonnen, ah beuty 4 InI to behold and an example to us all. Let ALL races promote H.I.M and try to emulate H.I.M.
    This is ah very big topic for Iyahman, something that touches I heart, I never used to feel away about anything but, from reading unnu views I'm feeling deeply troubled.
     I'm NOW watered down, no longer bunnin that Fiyah as radically as before, you could say i've become ah product of so many RasTa's who shun and deny white people and disinclude them from their movement . . . correction . . . Our movement.
     Didnt H.I.Mself Prince I-mmanuel Charles Edwards designate ah white priest? YES! and Bobo Shanti is strictly ah black supremacy movement so, how could the black Christ innah flesh give authority to ah white man to teach? Simple, JAH knows InI as individuals and as ah 1 movement, H.I.M knows InI hearts, JAH dun chose H.I.Ms few from long time and, YES I, this includes races outside of Israel (I-thiopians), so, get to know that its time to put aside our differences and step forward together and NOT against.
    I shouldnt have to remind you about the speech our beloved black King made, "What Life has taught Mi" and I shouldnt have to remind you for what it stands for, as well as African liberation, I-duct (conduct of I-self), it also has that sentence that should stay in our minds "Until the colour of ah mans skin is of no significance than the colour of his eyes, there shall be war."
    You could call mi ah weakheart for I did do what unnu require, tek of I turban, cut off I hair and dissasociate I-self wit RasTafarI, even deny H.I.M but I always step 4wards to H.I.M, theres something about H.I.M, I see what unnu see, I-thiopia reigns and black people should be the voice of the world, plain and simple.
    I've even tried to be more white like, trying to let go of black culture but, its hard, from I know the truth I know the truth regardless of what anybody says.
    I NOW carry JAH in I heart and, yes, I am in JAH'S heart, H.I.M walks wit Iyah and Iyah walk wit H.I.M, regardless of skin colour.
    Please, dont associate all white peoples as hippies, I know exactly what you're talkin about coz when I see ah whiteman wit locks I straight away look for ah beard or ah sign of red gold and green. In both walks of life many people bring shame upon RasTafarI's name and H.I.Ms people and thats when the REAL Gods and Goddesses get judged and looked on as 1 of dem.
    Its upto InI to push 4ward. Know thyself, get in touch with Thyself, show Jah you're willin, grab H.I.Ms hand when H.I.M strech's out, overall, let H.I.M be praised for I-ver.
    May be white people cannot be official RasTa's but white people can be ah spokesman for rightouesness, helping bun down babylon and bringing forth ah "Rasta Government", I've taught many black misled youths about themself and their African Heritage, nobody can tell mi ah single thing except the most High JJJAAAHHH RasTafarI, and to let anybody know, i'm NOT ah vulture, i'm NOT doing this for recognition, i'm doing this for I know and NOT believe, Selassie I lives and reigns.
     Check it, I-mmanuel seh, Man of Right is God In Flesh, Man of wrong is Satan in flesh, so stick to the right and bun out the wrong, for on my part I will never stop callin on Jah's name, i'm H.I.Ms child, whether locks or balhead, whether beard or clean shaven, JAH knows I and I know H.I.M. JJJAAAHHH bless.
     "I have no white God, dont teach mi anything wrong". Selassie I.

If you judge me not to be Rasta, you go against Rasta. Leave all judgment unto Jah. People who want to liberate and elevate humanity come in all colors and from all around our globe. Deal with it, deal with the truth. Don't fight against what you're fighting for.

RASTA IS NOT ABOUT LIBERATING "HUMANITY". IT IS ABOUT LIBERATING BLACK PEOPLE WHO ARE NOW BEING DOWNPRESSED AND ENSLAVED BY SMILING WHITE FACES.

when black people are liberated, then humanity will be liberated. now, u do ur part, and leave us to do ours.

"when afrikan righteous people come together, the world will come together. this is our divine destiny" - EMPEROR HAILE SELASSIE I

BLACK LIVE. BLACK REDEMPTION. BLACK GOVERNMENT. BLACK!

Yes mi Idren.
Give thanks for all the responces and such. 
Imon used to feel very strong about this topic. I didn't think there could be any true white Rastas. But after some reasioning and meeting some people, I see they we should stop all these divisions. One love, sight?  but, InI should be very carefull not to let RastfarI become sort of, for a lack of better words, a white thing. because white people have stolen nuff from InInI.

RastafarI bless

greetings in the name of the almighty Jah Rastafari never fail always sure

Yes InI , iam iam seen no matter of color . No recal discrimination.  black white japanise chinese indian  its nah depend of color of eyes or skin its a heart thing .! oneness! rasta is nah colorthing rasta is universal , InI bredren here don´t know how much white ...... rasta´s praise haile selassie every day !    rasta all over the world . global thing seen

praise the lion of judah every day

 Selah

No white rastas are like black nazis its an oxymoron that cant happen. No matter how bad they wanna steal another part of our culture their theft will never make them rastas. Same thing with so-called native american ancestors, yts stole their culture walking around with bird feathers and dream catchers claiming to be "indian". Imitating us does not make them us. Dread locks dont make em rasta & dream catchers dont make em indian it just makes them sad and pathetic to not have their own culture.

Its a yt supremacists thing to suggest a yt women can be more rasta than a black person. Rastafarianism is a part of my Black culture and not nobody else. Dont yts have witchcraft (Druidism) cant yts be happy with their own culture?

Well said gman. Why cant the yts that like the way just support it instead of stealing it?

Blacknificently said. It is against divine law of maat to befriend the enemy that is killing your family. These fake luke warm brothas & sistahs need to leave the rastafarian black power movement and join tha new agers. Dont they know Leonard Howell's original rasta beliefs? 1.hatred for white race 2.superiority of black race 3.revenge on whites 4.humiliation of jamaican government 5.go back to Afrika 6.Selassie only ruler for black people. How can yts respect Garvey or Howell when these men didnt respect yts?

You brothas & sistahs that wanna let tha enemy in our camps should be ashamed of yourselves, because of you the ancestors are not pleased. Our culture and our initiations are for us and thats why in Afrika the elders keep them secret because its sacred and outsiders will spoil it. It is a shame some of you dont understand that once you let everybody in its no longer sacred, this is Afrikan knowledge.

yo. Greetings S1.

gotta question....
If whites learn the truth thru Rasta, as long as they aren't the leaders.. why is it bad for then to embrace Rasta?
give thanks and praise unto the Most High Jah.

Jah! RastafarI.

I know some all right white people.




-Kana

Greetings and thanks for the sincere question. Whites can not embrace rasta because it is not white culture it is black afrikan culture for black afrikan people. The same applies to a black person. Black people should not practice druidism (witchcraft) because it is white culture. White people can appreciate and respect the rasta culture but they cant be rasta. I know some white people that may seem to be "alright" but that doesnt mean they have to try to be like me and practice my ancestors traditions they have their own culture and their own ancestors traditions so why cant they be them and we be us I mean everybody dont gotta be rasta.

Yes Idren S1,

Yea, I agree with that. But what do you think white people should do? Cuz,  a lot of their traditions are wrong. yuh dun kno. so, I don't know....just wondering... It's really not InI job to worry about what other people will do. But....I don't know S1, I believe in love, sight. Rasta may not be the way for white people.. and that's cool, but the WHOLE world must know the truth. seen. so, what I'm saying is that, white people, and all people must accept/know the FACTS: that Jesus was black. and that Haile I Selassie I was crowned, King of Kings, Lord of Lords, Conquering Lion of the Tribe of Judah.

I respect your insight and you are a seeker of truth as I am but I do believe it is the yt peoples business on what they should do you see JAH respect tribe and division of nation as a matter of fact it was forbidden by JAH Himself to marry outside of ones own race, Jesus even told da samaritan women that he was sent only to the house of Israel. The only time we should worry about yt is when they steal our culture.

You are such a manipulator. If your not a rasta and your not black tell me what is your agenda coming to a black afrikan and rastafarian forum. Do you not have your own culture and you have to sneak in with the black people or are you just rejected by your own people? I think you have a mental illness like a black man going to a klan site, whats wrong with you?
P.S. "whitey" we will never accept you you are the biggest terrorist on earth and I hope you people burn down in hell!

You see yt people this is an forum for afrikans to speak their mind without caring about how yts take it. If yts dont like what they read then theres only one thing to do... GET OUT! You have many forums you can go to and feel comfortable and accepted. If you dont understand why my people and all other non-whites are angry at your people shame on you for being so out of touch with the rest of the world. If you yts didnt notice your nation has committed the worst crimes against humanity everywhere you go. I pray one day JAH stops you.

White must accept that they descend from black people.

Blessed Heart of Love My Lord! Give thanx for life and the mighty life giver! I read the I post. I am a bobo empress and I follow the Black Supremacy. The mother and father of creation is african. As a bobo there is only two type of people= White and Black(ideology). The black is the right, which is all nations and the white is the evil x world, which is all downpressors.
All nations came from one man. All nations will be judged at the end(Micah 4). It is not a matter of if white people can be true, but if we can live out and accept the truth given to I n I. Remember white people have been conditioned(well not jus white) since birth. I come from that nation, well also native. I was not exposed to afrika or even the truth of afrika. Jah is the one who showed I when I was a little girl. No person ever did. But, if Jah didn't then I probably wouldn't be here today. Because babylon conditions I n I to follow this false teaching of life. But, once you stand in the "R" u must be purged and cleansed. As afrika and afrikans were raped of true-story many white ppl. were hidden from afrikans and afrikans true-story. They didn't want the white ppl. to see the truth cause then they will have to give amerika to those who built it= afrikans. Additionally, the white ppl. who ran this world would have to give up them jobs to those who really created them= afrikans. So, they hide the truth and use the church, walls of education, media, etc. to teach I n I lies. Why is it so hard for a white rasta to be a true rasta? Truth is truth. So, if ones and ones follow truth, it wouldn't be a question. First I n I must go through the fire to be cleansed and purged of any babylonian brainwash and conditioning. Well, I can go on and on and its a little difficult to express Iself by typing. But, like I said TRUTH IS TRUTH.
Another thing I noticed since I trodded in the bobo order, is once "Black Supremacy" is mentioned it causes so much contention. But when u really think bout it, why would it be so when its the natural way. I n I follow rastafari, which is a black mother and father of creation. So, naturally everything black from creation is supreme.  "..As it was in the beginning so shall it be in the end." Selah

blessed Empress Tracy,

Iman am Brown, sight? so wha do you tink bout Iman? two people ideo. black and white. i suppose im black then............

blessed love
Jah Guidance and Protection,

_Kana

Blessed Love Ras Kana, pardon the delay, but I can't seem to find this forum when i log in. I guess I didn't look hard enough. N e wayz, I don't know if the I was being sincere with that question or being sarcastic. Sometimes reasonment through email or forums can be read wrong, so if I am wrong forgive I, but I feel the I was being sarcastic.
I know Rastafari have many mansions and not all believe the same. But, one thing is I n I must stand in one irit. I n I also must do the works of Rastafari which nuff needs to be done. Well, I will say one more thing. Out of one came many. I have a general question. If you go into many CHRISTIAN homes of black ppl. in amerikkka(or wherever) what do u see hanging on the wall? Most of the time a  blonde hair blue eye Geezus who they worship as them savior. Do people have a hard time accepting that? Are they trying to be white? No, it is not a thought. But when nations have a black christ on the wall and follow a black father and mother of creation, it is a sin. But how can I n I fight what is true. If Jah only created one nation then one nation would follow Jah. But, Jah created all nations, so all nations must rise up and follow Jah. But, the first nation is afrikan. It is time babylon fall so afrika can be free. Once afrika is free I n I will have peace(read selassie's speech and garvey).
In a way I can see, (but not saying I understand cause I'm not afrikan) how afrikans home and abroad, would have a hard time when they see white ppl. following rastafari. Because white have raped and the white world Itinue to rape afrika and afrikans home and abroad. When I say white ppl. I am referring to downpressors of all nations, but first starting with the white( I hope u get this cause i'm not explaining iself- hard through email) So, now black ppl. have something- rastafari and now white ppl. are praising afrika as a rastafari child. But, if I n I are Rastafari I n I will follow the words of I n I father. At the end all nations will be judged (micah 4). In the book of John it says If you love me but hate your neighbor your a lier(paraphrased). In the book of John Chapter 15(forgot the verse) it says, "I command you to love another.."
I n I are one but different. I n I all seek salvation from all nations. Because Jah is love, let us all love! What I have a hard time with is when I see ones and ones thinking that rastafari is some "one love" lets smoke type of attitude. Rastafari is a serious livity. Well, I said enough, its hard to express i thoughts by typing. But, hope the I made Iself clear enough, and I say these words with maximum humility and humbleness. Give thanx and blessed heart of sabbath..love love

Yes Empress Tracy,
Nuff Raspeck queen, iretime.  Yea i site that problem too. it's difficult to overstand the tone of just typed words. But yes I, i was being a lickle sarcastic...raspeck tho.  I def. agree whole-heartedly with the I. So everyting is everyting. yea....We all one foreal. make we come together.  The "white" ideology is wrong.  But babylon is wrong as well...some people see them as one in the same..(I used to) . As the I said....Jah is the maker of all nations. and babylon definition is "confusion".  We gotta come together and just fight against babylon and not against our brothers and sisters and their culutre. 

And...
Yes I. RastafarI is Serious Livity...no joke thing. Im going to post that up as another topic...that's an important issue.

blessed love Sista....

Jah Guide and protect.

-Kana

Blessed Heart of Love Ras Kana, Give thanx for the I word sound. How joyful it is to be able to reason with such perfect love. Times like this that just bring so much love to the spirit. Its ok that the I was sarcastic, I just ignore u..lol..just kidding. I think I shouldn't have reasoned bout that without full overstanding. It is a blessing to come together and reason bout I n I thoughts and beliefs, esp. when I n I see differently.  For only through reasonment can I n I fully get to understand and learn from one another. N e wayz, I'm sounding emotional, but I'm just irie to be able to come together and reason I n I differences..Much love and Ispect. Heart of Love Honorable Ras Kana..Love Love

Empress Tracy

White Rasta can happen but it is very rare. Nuff of them just wear locks as fashion statement so you can't assume they are Rastas. I disagree that whites being Rasta is stealing our African culture. It preserves the culture, the more people the stronger the movement, but we don't want whites to take all the credit or be at the head of it.

Rasta is in the heart not your skin color if one is sincere and actually wants to trod the rastafari path there should not be a problem. The problem is that there are so many hippies that hear some Bob Marley records and get into it and smoke herb so they think they are Rasta. Hippies are very far away from Rasta morals and livity so them should not be considered Rasta. But if they genuinely like the culture you can't blame them. Let them dance to reggae and hear di positive vibes and ting one doesn't have to be Rasta to enjoy that. The point I'm trying to say is people should not be drawn to Rasta for the wrong reasons, it should be a genuine spiritual pursuit that comes from the heart. Blessings

Blessed Love I shack, give thanx for the upfull reasoning and word sound..heart of love

I am white and I want to be a Rasta not for Ganja(i can't smoke anyway) and not for the look, but becasue i agree that all people are equal and no one deserves any mistreatment due to the colour of their skin which also includes being told that they cannot be rasta becasue they are white. Although I agree with people on this forum when they say that a white person should not be allowed to lead the rastas becasue it is after all a black movement but they should be allowed to follow it. And I fully support your views on equality of all men of all colours. And someone said that white people that don't know about their heritage can't be rasta for some reason so I'm just pointing out that I do know about my heritage becasue my father and my grandparents study geneology and they have a family tree going well before the time we moved to Canada from Ireland and Ukraine.

"That until there is no longer first class
And second class citizens of any nation
Until the colour of a man's skin
Is of no more significance than the colour of his eyes."
                                                  -Bob Marley

I agree with Kai "True Rastas know no colour" that is the whole point of being rastafarian isn't it equality of all men and women no matter what the colour of their skin. 

By the way I joined this forum to learn about Rasta from true Rastas in hopes of becoming a True Rasta so if anyone doesn't like that I am a rast at teh moment is it so bad that I just want to learn from you just putting that out there before some one says something like get off the forum u arent rasta or something.

Silence occurs when contradiction is heard,

Greetings in the name of the most High H.I.M. Haile Selassie I,

Nobody on this planet is born with all the knowledge of overstanding. I n I learn that all that makes me is the path I walk on and the knowledge I gained therein. Now how you overstand knowledge is left to the individual. If I n I is to attempt grasping the power of the most High, then I n I undoubtebly be dealing with that which was, is and shall always be. That which was, is and shall always rule. This rule is the definition of eternity, those laws bounded by unity for segregation can never grow into anything sustainably. U see, to divide means to destroy that which is unified and thus to unify means to create. If life is about creation then the answer to me is very clear. Take a continent, say AFRIKA, divide it with borders into countries and there we have the seed for unstoppable wars, seen. And indeed as H.I.M. say also untill the philosophy that holds one race superior and another inferior...there shall be war. Silence always occurs when that is mentioned, H.I.M. own words addressing the whole world, please can someone explain how H.I.M. meant black superiority and white inferiority with those words???!!!! On this forum there are those that speak words of hate towards their fellow man, those whom we share our ancestor with, ADAM. Divide and rule is indeed their favoute tool so please my brethren don't be fooled by this ignorant rule! I n I is surely a complete 'hue man', implying that I n I come from the creation by 2 other humans. One happens to be what some consider 'white' (a judgement for those that dare not look deeper within the soul) and the other 'black'. Must this mask of the soul be a reason for me to scorn my own mother? I n I simply will refuse to do such for I believe babylon is system...it may have materialized into that which we can see and touch but my friend don't be illuded for it's a system of the mind!  Lack of knowledge to keep the masses blind! Mankind creates what he believes...the moment our belief changes it begins to materialize. Who r you my brethren to judge ur fellow man? JAH?! JAH judgeth the souls and always has and think not to be priviledged of his judgement because of the amount melanin that is found within your skin! If we do truely overstand our history and follow the laws of unity, only then can we unshackle our minds from nationhood to global livity. I n I appreciate, respect and bless all life on this planet, even equality of the smallest ant, for even he may carry JAH message so if I n I unify myself with the most High then there are no limits beyond the sky. But for now I know I shall not waste my time on those unwilling to accept that which unifies mankind for truely it is their will that shall keep them blind.

JAH Bless you all,

...and may H.I.M. guide us all to the light that illuminites our sight to a being that is right...

-soulwarrior

Well with all due respect why do you want to become a Rasta? All religions preach equality of all men of all colours.

Not quite if they did then there would never have been slaves in all the history the jewish people would not have been put to work as slaves by the egyptians and would the african people have been used as slaves by the white people.  Of course now adays they all do becasue if they didn't then they wouldn't be socially exeptable and no one would join them but there aren't any religions besides rastafarian that really enforces it as an actual part of their religion that I know of.  And I am a big believer in judging someone by what they do and not by how they look.

Hail, Brendan...

satta man...no worries yuhkno. Take it easy. Just meditate on the Most h I gh and try stop worry bout what people tink on the internet. haha. I mean...Im the one who started this topic. I've got some white blood in me yuh kno but I'm tryin to come to the point where I see the world's people as one...I know good white people...I just am hesitant b/c of tings that agwan inna tha past...seen....so really...we are all one people...Jah Children...it just is hard for the whole of we some time yuh kno to get past a colur. B/c i know that when Iman see a European looking white man...with european features and ting...It just reminds me of expoltation and slavery and what them call "Christanity" I hail up the Christ same way ..yuh dun know. JAH RASTAFAR I!!

HIghly BLESS

I t would be great if everyone could jsut put the whole race thing behind them and start anew not forgte everything becasue i think it is a great thing to know about your heritage but just have a fresh start .

You were doing so well until that.
Why is it that white people are always putting forward this idea?
How about this...When white people put away this concept, then we wont need to be concerned about race.
I don't have a problem with the preferred quote "until the philosophy that holds...", but it is blatantly ridiculous to ask the oppressed to pretend that race is not a factor, when their oppression is based upon race!
Just because so many white kids choose to live in denial while enjoying the benefits of white privilege, don't think that you are then able to ask us to live in denial.  We already did that when we were fed the "Don't worry, just be a good slave and Jesus will take care of you when you get to heaven" bullsh*t.
Man, look how you go get me all worked up...and I'm one of the ones who are for inclusion too, but you have a ways to go before me coulda trust you iyah.  Long time you have to watch the walk-in sheep to make sure it's not a wolf.

Still, One Perfect Love,
Jah Melku

Hail in the name of HIM Haile Selassie I Jah Rastafari...

Brendan, I have to agree with Jah Melku, race is definitely a factor and cannot be put behind InI.  Even though Anthropologists have shown that Race isn't biological, it still exists as a socio-cultural construct and has caused so much damage, pain, destruction, etc. to InI black bredren and sistren as well as so many other peoples (i.e. the indigenous people's of the Americas).  InI can't just put that behind InI.

At the same time, Brendan, if JAH lead I to be Rastamon...That is between I and JAH.  No man can tell InI what InI can or can't be.  JAH is judge and HIM say that color of skin needs to stop being a factor.  If I feel that I are called by The Most High to be a Rasta then don't let anyone stand in the way of that.  Just feel JAH Love in I heart and follow HIM livity.  If JAH is one and there is no other, then JAH is for all people and all people JAH....As Luciano say," Man (Black, White, Asian, Indian, Whoever) was made to serve JAH, and Together we'll live forever."

BTW, I guess I am a white Rasta (I father is Puerto Rican/ I mother is White)...I think everyday on the shamefull acts I people perpetrated on InI Indian and African bredren and I seek daily to make amends for that.  I never can...I overstand that, but doing InI part is all InI can do.  Educating I-self and fighting Babylon System is a start.  This is why I become an Anthropology major...to do I part to end the downpressive system of Babylon and to make this world safe for Iversity.

Nyahbinghi!!!

In the name of His Imperial Majesty, King of Israel, King of Kings, Lord of Zion: JAH bless! One Love! One Heart!

Ras Mikael (Adrian)

Blessed My Lords and Empresses, heart of celebration for HIM earthstrong. Hope all is bless with ones and ones. Jah Melku, I hope the I not roarring still. I want share how I see ur reasonment. I agree with the I, but remember In I still have to be purged. I know it is easier said then done and plus I cannot truly understand ur feelings cause I'm not afrikan, but I mother and father of creation are, and I feel u. But, In I have been conditioned by the west for so long that I n I don't even real eyes it sometimes. So, the I got worked up, but what if the I tried to educate the bredren. It may be that he just didn't know or real eyes. So, don't mark him as a wolf so quik. Maybe from ur email he real eyesd his way of thinking was wrong. I just say this cause being white and living in a white world, they don't want to teach us the truth. So, we really need to learn from the main source- Afrikans, etc. I can't really express Iself through email, but hope u get I point..EAch one teach one.
I strongly believe that until afrika is free we cannot start to let go of the past. The past will always be in our mind. It is sad that 1/2 the story has never been told. I said this before, as they raped u, ur true-story and mother afrika, they hid me from knowing u and hated me for talking about ur true-story and standing next to u. But, so much hasn't been told, so when u learn about it, it seems like it happened yesterday.
I n I spirits will not rest, nor will I n I be free until the motherland is free. Until that day reparation and repatriation occurs, there will be war.
Just look at ur calender, they still celebrate columbus who enslaved the arawak then afrikan slaves and who didn't discover anything, but how to rob and rape more. They say forget the past, but were still living in it, just another form. Slavery never ended, just look at all the genocide, media, schools, etc.
Many blessings to all, love love

Many of you point out that being a "Rasta" to most white people is a fad and they just want the look and to smoke and listen to reggae. This I agree with from what InI have seen. That is really all that people think that Rastas are anyway until they actually make the effort to look into it. However rare it may be I think whites can become Rastas, if their heart is right and they face the reality of the truth behind white supremacy and babylon. As well as making every effort to stop oppression and bring down the system by say choosing not to go to college or promote and becoming as little a part of the system as possible. they must face the fact of their supremacy, racist ways, systematic slavery and recognise it as an atrosity upon all humanity. we must not be afraid to reason on racism. if they realise these wrongs then they are on the right path. White Rastas are proof that white people can change, that should be supported. I look at it as a first step toward taking the path that should be taken by all people anyway. at least some effort is made, many just seek more knowledge for it because they are trying to figure out whats right, they want to face reality. even a little can help alot. Whites have clearly shown that they do not know the way that life is to truly be lived. This does not say that Rasta is not still a black movement when whites become rasta. I am white but I embrace that blacks are the selected race of God. They are clearly much wiser than whites, as well as many other factors. I practice Rasta with the hope that blacks one day will rule this world with love and peace as god had intended. The whites will not survive without the help of blacks. that is why whites and all races must learn the ways of Rasta so as to be a proper part of creation. whites must realise and learn as we all do. All those that are unable to do this will go down in babylon. The sheep must learn to respect the shephard.

As for whites praising JAH. You cannot deny that it is fact and we know that Haile Selassie is divine, for it is prophesised in the bible. Since he truly is JAH then isnt that what all people are supposed to follow? They just havent been educated because of the way they have been taught to think. They see god as white and their beliefs have been greatly distorted. and most People dont like change because its what they have been taugh their entire lives. Only half the story has been told. If it has been looked into and researched by whites and others as InI have done then the truth will be learned and therefore once you know and accept the truth that automatically makes you a part of it. and you focus your life on the teachings. The LOVE is what guided me. I just seeked the truth. And I found it. Much humility is in order for Whites if they wish to be saved.

RESPECT, LOVE and WISDOM. May JAH shine his light upon you all.
Thank you for reading. Hows my aim? I am wondering, do I sound like one of the "rare" white rastas? I would like to know if I have my thoughts in order. Thanx

What is wrong with going to college?  Both Marcus and Selassie taught that i-ducation is paramount.

now let's think on this:
"I am white but I embrace that blacks are the selected race of God."
"I practice Rasta with the hope that blacks one day will rule this world with love and peace as god had intended."

Do you really believe the Almighty has a selected race?  Isn't this belief what caused a lot of the problems Rastafari aim to address?
Why do 'blacks' need to rule the world? or any other select culture or group?

The Almighty is no respecter of persons.  It doesn't matter what your ethnicity, all is equal.
Only righteousness was meant to rule the Earth, not a special ethnic group.

You cannot change your ancestors' past, so accept it and move forward.
Do not overcompensate for that past by developing an inferiority complex.
No man is more important than another in the sight of the Creator.
Live in love and it will reflect upon you.
Fight injustice wherever you see it and Rastafari will shine within you.
Seek and speak the Truth whatever it may cost you.

Love And Peace,
Jah Melku

Greetings to each and everyone of you.

I read through this topic, and felt compelled to say what I have discovered through my travels in life. I have studied and lived many religions throughout my life, because I have dedicated my entire life to serving the MOST HIGH. JAH did NOT place me on this earth to pass judgement apon my brothers and sisters. I am here to learn, grow, and expand the beauty of UNITY. So I study, and put it into action.

 For those of you on here that are searching for true unity, and respect of all of JAH creation in its natural form. My HIGHEST respect and love goes out to you. For those that want to keep us seperated by feeling the need for revenge, for what some of humanitys ancestors have done. I suggest you look deeper in your heart and truely seek what JAH wants from ALL OF US, and how to HEAL the wounds, not perpetuate them.

 Religion.... All and every religion becomes corrupted and mis leading, when one decides upon himself that any of us are any better then the other. JUDGING IS A CURSE!!!!!!!  If GOD created you, and GOD is perfect, then GOD could create nothing more perfect then you, if he created you perfect then every other creature is also created perfect, cause every other creature IS OF GOD. So when you see another person you should see only one thing.....GOD, and GODS perfection, in each person and in each creature. It does'nt matter if that person is the biggest fool, lier, or theif. That person has been created perfect as they are. So in reconizing and honering the perfection in the other person, you lift them up. To face their own understanding of their own perfection. The blessing of life is not to judge anyone, but to uplift them. If you cant see GOD in all, then you cant see GOD at all.

Its not that GOD is in one person, but not in another person. This person is Holy, and that person is not Holy. Every person has 9 holes. Every person is equally Holy. Can you see it? or do you put your mentel box around it, and put it in the pigion hole? We have to answer that ourselves. So and So is a bad person. So and So does this, So and So does that. Did you know she did that to him? blah blah blah... If thats what you want to talk about then YOU go down, if you want to go up. Then bring other people up, and you will go up with them.

 Basicly what Im trying to say is that. I live MY life free of discrimination. I DO NOT see color, or religion, when I am speaking to people. Its not my position to judge or discriminate. That shines through in my actions, and shines through in how I treat and respect others. THAT my kings and Queens is how you can help bring the world up. If you pass judgement on me, choose to disrespect my being. Then I ask JAH to bless you, and ask him to help you find your own TRUE self.

MAY JAH LIGHT SHINE THROUGH US ALL

 

There is no room for racism.  Allow yourselves to be divided is to allow your heart to be conquered by the whore of Babylon.

You will stand judgement for every word you ever speak.  Until then...


Respect.

Buggering little topic, this one. Praise Ye Jah! This is a confused society.

WHITES

How can you not understand that, given your race's record concerning interactions with peoples of other colors and nationalities, you are going to be (and very well should be) handled with extereme distrust and caution, illogical presuppositions and fanatic scrutiny? Where and when did you redeem yourselves? And since when did you exhaust the supply of already available information on Rastafari that you had to come in here searching for a less elusive answer? Cause that's all you're doing. I say WE, and I know many will say it's just me, want and have a need for the Whyte-Man Rasta... in truth and not in facsimile or appearance.

I happen to personally know a few 'whyte' Rasta and a couple Chinese Rasta, too. I know some Rasta who don't know they're Rasta! They're not walking about trying to be Rasta. They're not asking people if they can be Rastas. They just is Rasta and when they stroll down the lane the world feels it and y'all see it.

Yes, I.

Judging by some of the comments posted here, there are many who do show an open interest in other cultures or ways of life, but who may still remain unable to make the mental leap out of their own... and into the next man's shoes... or who don't dare or really care enough to continue once faced with a minor brush or some hardship. People tend to remain willing to give something until you ask it of them. Hence the disdain and opposition you face whilst attempting to 'REACH OUT' to the objects of your affections.

Maybe you could reassure them that your intentions are pure... or at least stop bugging people, begging them to let you into what you perceive as some sort of fraternal order. Rasta is a personal choice. Not a lodge. Dreads is an identity, not a hairstyle. Not a fad diet, but yood for livity. Not an attempt.. but what really is. We'll know you're Rastas when you stop sitting there asking 'Can we be Rastas?' and start to "LIVE UP". Ain't no Rastaman nowhere, at anytime ever gonna receive the O.K. to be himself... He just gonna have to do it and he knows this. Plus, there's work to be done.



BLACKS

Remember your afflictions and be not first to turn away a true friend.

Respekt Idren in the name of HIS IMPERIAL MAJESTY EMPORER HAILE SELASSIE I

The reason InI come searching this topic is that I thought there might be a place where RasTafari people who may or may not have pale skin can reason about educational matters
As it appears that white skinned one's and one's are not welcome by some RasTafari to share our thoughts then should we not work together to work to overcome this?
I am not trying to create a denomiation nor am I trying to exclude one's who seek knowledge of goodness and have something to say
because InI feel that if a one have a thing to say it is nessesary to say it

Babylon divide and rule us
We as white skin RasTafari have a privalige in this system (although we all get caught up this system)
As Black minded RasTafari (those who trod the Malchesidek way) surely we can use this as our tool  ???

Hail!

First and foremost I don't consider myself being a white man. Those catigorizations was made by the pope and his cohorts some 500 years ago. I refuse to play the white man/black man game beacause it was invented by the devil. Jah RastafarI Haile Selassie I come to show the world that until the philosophy which hold one race superior and another inferior is finally and permanently discredited and abondened, until the color of a mans skin is of no more significance than the color of his eyes, there will be war!!! So those separations, divisions and discriminations have to stop for all of I n I to live in peace and prosperity. I think u should look into RastafarI serious beacause it's the movemant of Jah people in this time. The religions of the world is tied down by historical and traditional miseducation. Only Rasta has been looking into matters without colored eyes, just seeing things as they are without prejudice, and only the Rasta have been free from blindness to know that His Imperial Majesty is the light of the world, no matter how Babylonian forces try to discredit H.I.M.
I and I don't believe, I and I know that this Babylon system is the devils system, and they have this doctrine of white being better than black, to divide and rule the world, to confuse the people with a wicked and evil doctrine. Instead of the teachings of H.I.M. that we all are ONE. But those who follow Babylon system, no matter of color, shall fall with it. And all rightous shall stand tall and firm in this judgement. Selah.

Hail Phesto
I and I give thanks for the reasoning
If there is more the I have to share on this or any other teaching
I and I long to see it
When you say you think I should look into RasTafafari serious what do you mean?
HIM is in InI heart, the very thought of HIM make me serious and humbled
By InI faith I go through dispelling the lies and taking the knowledge
Hail Emmanuel Haile Selassie I Jah Rastafarii
 

Bless up!!

 What I meant by look into it serious, was to see the messages for what they truely are. Dont get caught up into everyones personal interpretations of what the message means. Often babylon shitstem, twist what the message really is, and as people looking for truth we fall into the line of misdirection, because that is the way the message was taught. However if we take this serious, and truely seek out the message. The lord always provide us with the truth.

 I hope that no one thinks I was attacking them by saying be serious about it. I was only trying to make the point that it is a serious matter. (to me anyway)

Respek Iyah
Give thanks
 :)

For as long people talking about skin color there will be no respect of hart and soul, and that is all wth we should be considert for! As I sad we must bring ths world to a place were humans are devided only in two categories BAD or  GOOD

this is what i would do toa white rasta, cut da head off, and offer to my afrikan gods,dats for shure, and let my afrikan ancestors i have not committed ancestral treason,is this why,sexually perverted white women go to jamaica to fullfill their sexual fantasies and renta rasta! ::)

You done lost yer mind, Rasta. With an unprovoked killing you are committing ancestral treason, and you've definitely committed Filicide (the deliberate act of a parent killing his or her own son or daughter) because with whytes being the youngest of the human family, and with we as the oldest, that's what they are... our misbegotten and unmannered children.

 who feels it, knows it
who feels rasta, knows rasta - never mind sex or skin color

i don't like the black/white patterns, where is yellow or red
it seems to be no question

the problem, the heaviest stuff is the black/white men/women, worldwide


for me as white, for my white soul, in this time

spiritual leaders are black

the men and women that move my soul are black

if we look around the world, there are very, very less communities where black/white
live and learn together.

i believe, only in the rastafari community, there is true unity of mankind

white, for me as white, means there nothing
i mean nothing in the way of spiritual leadership

it has to take years and years, generation and generation of honesty from black/white people
to get real unity

bob marley records, i mean studio work, it's a black/white power thing with a
strong spiritual black leadership

only rasta can bring this kind of unity

for me as white, whose soul rise and rise again with words, sounds and power from rastafarians, worldwide
inspirational from black soul and spirit,

only black fatalistic soul can bring, black rasta soul and action - no white got that ability, that jah
give black as a gift, for hard work and repression, depression, oppression and elimination

rasta, forward - love

In answer to your question,

Yes They Can,

Just as a Black person has the propensity to adopt Christianity and other things that prevail in Babylon
So can a White Person embrace upful livity. Everybody has the potential to do good or bad, they make their choices.
The person who denies the inclusion of every man within their God's consideration is a fool and not only a fool, but a vain fool at that.

The issue is that the truth has been hidden, distorted and used to make this earth a living hell. The Rastafari  have awoken a consciousness which is the beginning to the road to enlightenment and that road is a free road Where the colour of a person's skin has no more significance that the colour of their eyes. Remember is H.I.M Selassie I who said that, not I.
De I have realise that we nah deal wid de toll road inna this time. seen!

Source

If I'm right, black people never adopted Christianity. It was forced upon them. Thus the reason why they the can adopt it now. they think if they do, whites will love/respect and accept them more easily.

That's if you believe He is your saviour/god. Everyone has their own way of interpreting life and/or Rastafari.

Greeting Empress Keneilwe

I agree with you that originally black people might not of accepted Christianity in some instances, but then again neither did a lot of people regardless of their race. But right now there is a propensity amongst People of Colour to embrace Christianity, that is a fact! However moving on beyond the petty-ism - What I am saying is , that if a one, anyone ;who accepts a certain livity, believes and has faith in a certain way of acknowledging, whomsoever they believe to be the Almighty!! Then why cant person that person be what it is they choose to be?

Source

Greetings EmpresKeneilwe

I read you statement, but I don't overstand what you are saying>

I wrote that most believe H.I.M. is god but that not true -Remember is H.I.M Selassie I who said that, not I am not god. I Art the Lion of Judah.

So your quote "That's if you believe He is your saviour/god. Everyone has their own way of interpreting life and/or Rastafari".
  Doesnt make any meaningful sense. Could you please elaborate on what you mean!

Greetings Source,

It may not make sense to you, but it does to me.
You need to overstand that, RASTAFARI is a way of life, not a mainstream religion! Well, I think so anyway. Just like a lot of people (RASTA) still believe in the bible, bcoz he used the bible as his book of reference. This does not mean the bible is the book of truth. To many people, he is not the messiah, but he is to many.

You said "Remember is H.I.M Selassie I who said that, not I."
To me it sounds like just bcoz he said it, it automatically becomes a fact or truth. Thus the reason I stated what i did.

This still might not make sense to you. Every person with an open mind, has their own perception of what RASTA means. Once you get to overstand it, you'll see it's not a set of instructions from H.I.M. He was aslo just speaking on behalf of other blacks, but from his own view. Thus, he said he is not god.

Jah Bless
K

You know, I would think that because H.I.M. is a god, what he says would automatically be true.  If that is not the case, can he rightly be called a god?

Thus i said "That's if you believe He is your saviour/god. Everyone has their own way of interpreting life and/or Rastafari". Your being the operative word.

Firstly, I believe in my goddess, H.I.M brought a message forth. In my books, he doesn't automatically become my saviour. He is a guide, but not my sanctuary.

Please read the line as I cannot break it down any further.

Peace
Keneilwe

NO!!!!! WHITE MAN MUST KNOW THAT RIGHTEOUSNESS IS BLACKNESS. KHALID PUT IT CLEAR THAT WHITE MANKIND IS DEVIL. BLACKNESS IS SUPREME.

Ini see confusion. You got the two extremes in this and most other "reasonings" on if a white can be a Ras.

First off, these are not "reasonings". These are ".com" rases who think they know something, but you put anyone of these so called rases in de yard or inna de bush and see how long they last. These "reasonings" are mostly just passive aggressive racial argument.

second of all you have the two extremes. you have the dumbass whites who can only quote one thing from Selassie I and that is about the color of a mans skin being of no more importance then the color a mans eyes. And they really have no clue as to what "white privledge" is all about and inact in their stupidity.
Or you have the rases all for black supremacy and forget what RasTafari is about. Both of the two extremes need to humble the ini. Read Psalms, Proverbs, etc. and learn som wisdom. Tell Ini once when King Solomon, the wisest man to walk Jah earth outside of Selassie I, said that his race "Black Hebrew" was the supreme race and all should serve them... He never did, neither did Yesus Christo, Selassie I, King David, Enoch or any other prophet, teacher, hola man.

Mankind is inherently evil. Not just whiteman, but also blacks, native americans, south americans, indians, asians and so on. Mankind fell away from the perfect nature that we were designed to have. Jah says that Adam sinned and cursed mankind forever with inherent sin. So no one should exalt or insult another for their color of their skin but by there actions.

Give Ises to Jah RasTafari, The Conquering Lion from the Tribe of Judah, The Elect of Jah, King of Kings, Lord of Lords, Earth's Rightful Ruler, Selassie I Jah RasTafari.

Humble Greetings family,

BigChoppa, just a question for you.
Don't you think the whites and arabs are more evil than others for the oppression of other groups? And I'm not saying blacks (or "minorities") are excluded from that.

And again, you make reference to bible. Not everyone believes that one gets wisdom from it. Some people dispise it and anything that has to do with "oppressor" religions.


I agree with you here. IGNORANCE and ARROGANCE are "sins" and I'm yet to overstand this term "sin" in it's full context.

Thats a hard question to answer. Ini agree that the aryan race has caused more afflictions, but ini think it's more of a foolish ignorance type of thing for the majority. They will blindly follow their leaders without question. It is a lack of their culture and perspective of the world around them that causes that mindset. They aren't in touch with Jah or nature. Ini think that is root of their problem, they honestly have no roots.

Ini overstand what you are saying about the bible. however most would agree that those men were wise men. The problem is everyone has their own regard to is Selassie I was a wise man, or King Solomon, etc. Iman can only speak for Iself.

But Ini don't overstand why the ini speaks in generalizations instead of directly. Ini have trouble speakin to someone when ini don't know the ini's view. Ini just want to Raspect one another and not use analogies that have no validity in the others eyes.

The real issue we all have to deal with is "white priviledge", which the majority in reality still do not care to overstand.

It is only a hand full of white people who admit this priviledge, others choose to turn a blind eye and use it to their advantage.

Ini do agree. everyone has to deal with the white priviledge. and there are those VERY few whites who acknowledge it. It is really a shame.

Not really sure where to start on here but this looks like as good a place as any...  So on the subjuect of "can there be white rastas"  I think for surely there can, and there are.  This is a pretty mixed up world, thats why there are black people that think they are Roman Catholic.  I try not to judge where a man is comfortable resting there head, I come from a small country in South East Asia called Laos, a predominantly Buddhist country, and there are always flocks of white people coming to seek nirvana by meditating in one of our old temples.  I think they are barking up the wrong tree, but it doesn't really bother me.  These people would never even know where Laos is if America didn't spend nine years bombing the hell out of it, and I would have never been in America if my father hadn't escaped here as a refugee with my brother and I.  So I am a product of laotian soldier and white american woman who went to Laos during the war because of her "guilt" for what America was doing.  When I arrived in America I lived in the ghetto in Milwaukee and was introduced to Rastafarianism by my neighbors who were nyabingi elders helped me cope with not being accepted by the laotian, white or black communities with which I was surrounded.  They also helped with diffusing the anger I had from being hunted like an animal in the jungle for my beginning years, so I have a lot of love for these particular Rastafarians and their faith.  Thats my brief intro and Its all love and love full time.  there are some pretty articulate people on here and I like the conversation taking place, thats why I'm here.

It is interesting to see how the Chinese Rasta "Purifya" put a temporary stop to this topic.  Who has submitted anything more dread than the experience of being bombed by white Americans for 9 years of your childhood and then spiritually restored by Black Nyahbinghi living in the said America.  The reality of what the man went thru seems to have answered the question, i.e., "Natty will be there to see you thru," no matter who you are or what race you were born into.  And the man really liked this conversation but nobody continued it!

Purifya, you did indeed have a purifying effect on the reasoning, effectively burning out the hypothetical ideas and bringing it down to reality.

The greatest evil the white man inflicts on the earth is their domination over national boundaries and private property, over which all wars are fought.  These false ideas of ownership (applied after stealing everything valuable on the face of the Earth) form the basis of all the false laws that permit white people to tell a man living in the desert that he cannot emigrate to a land where he could plant food.  No ... he has to stop there and dead, because that's where he was born.  Woe be unto them in the Day of Judgment.

A white person can truly be Rasta if they overstand we have to destroy in order to rebuild.  The white system must be completely destroyed.  Nyahbinghi gave her freedom and her life for Mama Africa, and she is still Alive and still Fighting.  For a white woman to truly be Rasta (and not just a lover of Rasta), she must be Nyahbinghi, willing to fight and die for Mother Earth.  Rastas are spiritual warriors, yet I&I know very well they will try to take us out physically if they can't corrupt our souls.

To be Rasta requires a white persion to accept Blackness 100%.  This can only be done by leaving Babylon, giving up the World and going thru whatever experience of suffering and spiritual growth that the Most High has prepared for you as a way of redemption.  This is difficult but not impossibly harsh because JAH does not give us more than we can bear.  It does require patience and faith.  If you have very little of these, and you pray for more, you shall be given.

A "white" Rasta has the debt of their ancestors to pay.  JAH has a way mapped out for you to re-pay Black People for a portion of all the injustice.  It does not mean allowing yourself to be abused by unscrupulous people, although that will also happen to you from time to time, once you are doing JAH Work.  Remember that money is an illusion.  There are more Snakes out there than Righteous Ones (in every race), and there are even more who don't know what is what, or are being controlled by forces they can't handle.  If you don't stand up and strengthen yourself within the Holy Spirit, you will go down into the Pit like the rest.

To be Rasta, a white person must be willing to live Third World and take strain in order to help the bredren and sistren.  There is real reward in this because Third World geography, Third World survival skills and Third World Spirit of Community and Godliness all provide I&I with a blessed assurance of earthly salvation compared to those living in wealthy, spoiled, selfish nations powered by nuclear technology that risks destroying their habitat for many thousands of years.  Black people do not make these kinds of stupid and wicked decisions for profit, unless they've sold out to the white world.  This gives an idea of the meaning of Black Supremacy: a supremacy of righteousness of Black Culture, not a racial concept. 

White Rastas have a work to fulfill: to stand up publicly against the white system, but it would be wise to really live Black Culture first, and take your time, so you can then speak from the perspective of knowing what is good, not only what is bad.  It is a long journey to Consciousness.  We all come from Africa and it is to this Original Life that we must return.

RASTAFARI was the only option for me as a young white person in Babylon.  It was not something I could ignore.  I could not worry about whether I would be accepted or whether I might be manipulated as a Woman.  I could not be deterred from the Truth.  My sanity and physical health depended on escaping a corrupt, unhappy and unrealistic lifetime existence.  I wanted a Conscious life for my children, a return to Blackness, not a watering down of Blackness.  This, by the Grace of JAH, I have achieved - I have broken the chain that bound me and my seed to unrighteousness.  I did not go thru the attachment problems that many white people might face when trying to give up their old culture.  I did have ridiculous difficulties learning to handle stress, hurdles to overcome while learning to pray and and disasters to experience because of the reality of spiritual wickedness, but I welcomed it all because I knew that the Natural way is the only way we can move on to ZION.  I give thanks that JAH provided a way out of my spiritual pain into the embrace of Black Love. 

Now I pray for guidance and protection for Rasta People because I know only JAH can sustain us as we help fulfill His Victory.  My own deliverance is documented in The Repatriation Papers at www.zionearth.net (http://www.zionearth.net) (no cost or advertisements).  I refer to this site because I challenge anyone to read what the Spirit says to the Nations and continue to insist that people who were not born Black can't return to their original Roots.  It's not I&I who determine our own Destiny, but JAH.  Inasmuch as we choose to have faith in JAH, so He chooses whom He Will.  All Thanks and Raspect to all Black Man and Woman who preserved the Truth and the Joy under terrible conditions.

The question is not whether white people can be Rastas, but: Who can save their own Soul before the Winds of Devastation?  Bless.

I dont really understand this question. With the knowledge of Jah Rastafari - His Imperial Majesty Emperor Haile Selassie being the creator of heaven and earth, who shall the white man praise for this? Someone else?